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> when pretty much everyone was in the 'just a flu/cold' mode By "everyone" do you mean people around where you live? The CDC was always concerned about mortal

> when pretty much everyone was in the 'just a flu/cold' mode By "everyone" do you mean people around where you live? The CDC was always concerned about mortality rates and never suggested it was just a flu/cold. In Feb 2020 I recall hearing the president say the flu/cold thing, however the CDC was always trying to say it is serious. They were just not clear on where it had spread yet, and due to a testing screw-up, it was undertracked at the beginning. Also, at that time the CDC was saying healthy people didn't need to wear masks -- because it wasn't yet a pandemic and there still wasn't research indicating that masks protect the wearer.

ipaddr 4y ago
Many of us knew in January when the Chinese doctor spilled the news before he was in-prisoned.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  imprisoned*
- unityByFreedom 4y ago
  Feb 2020 is the timeframe mentioned by the above comment. In mid January we heard there was a new version of a SARS-like virus, and around January 21 China finally acknowledged there was human-to-human transmission. Taiwan noticed news about isolated cases of an unknown virus on Dec. 31 2019, and had tipped off the WHO of possible human-to-human transmission. I don't think the wider public world knew about it until after January 12 or so, and it wasn't confirmed to transmit among humans until over a week later, despite suspected illness among doctors and nurses. AFAIK China still has not shared details about who was infected during that early period.
  - winrid 4y ago
    There is also much propaganda still coming out of China that the virus started elsewhere. Which may be true, we'll probably never know for sure.
    - unityByFreedom 4y ago
      China has not permitted any investigation into the origins of the virus. And given the ease with which it spreads, and the fact that everyone was heads up about it in January, you'd think we'd have heard about a proliferation of cases elsewhere if it had begun elsewhere. That didn't happen. What we saw was a spread of cases in Wuhan, then in nearby China, then major cities worldwide. And as soon as it spread worldwide, China reported exactly 50% more deaths in one day [1], then stopped reporting deaths altogether. [2] [3] [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/4/17/chinas-wuhan-revises-coronavirus-death-toll-up-by-50-percent https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/4/17/chinas-wuhan-revise... [2] https://i.imgur.com/SnwqNsd.png https://i.imgur.com/SnwqNsd.png [3] https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/china https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/china
      - winrid 4y ago
        Thanks. I have my Chinese friends telling me that China let investigations happen at the labs in Wuhan but the US never let such a thing happen, and so on...

ipaddr 4y ago

Many of us knew in January when the Chinese doctor spilled the news before he was in-prisoned.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
imprisoned*
unityByFreedom 4y ago
Feb 2020 is the timeframe mentioned by the above comment. In mid January we heard there was a new version of a SARS-like virus, and around January 21 China finally acknowledged there was human-to-human transmission. Taiwan noticed news about isolated cases of an unknown virus on Dec. 31 2019, and had tipped off the WHO of possible human-to-human transmission. I don't think the wider public world knew about it until after January 12 or so, and it wasn't confirmed to transmit among humans until over a week later, despite suspected illness among doctors and nurses. AFAIK China still has not shared details about who was infected during that early period.
- winrid 4y ago
  There is also much propaganda still coming out of China that the virus started elsewhere. Which may be true, we'll probably never know for sure.
  - unityByFreedom 4y ago
    China has not permitted any investigation into the origins of the virus. And given the ease with which it spreads, and the fact that everyone was heads up about it in January, you'd think we'd have heard about a proliferation of cases elsewhere if it had begun elsewhere. That didn't happen. What we saw was a spread of cases in Wuhan, then in nearby China, then major cities worldwide. And as soon as it spread worldwide, China reported exactly 50% more deaths in one day [1], then stopped reporting deaths altogether. [2] [3] [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/4/17/chinas-wuhan-revises-coronavirus-death-toll-up-by-50-percent https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/4/17/chinas-wuhan-revise... [2] https://i.imgur.com/SnwqNsd.png https://i.imgur.com/SnwqNsd.png [3] https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/china https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/china
    - winrid 4y ago
      Thanks. I have my Chinese friends telling me that China let investigations happen at the labs in Wuhan but the US never let such a thing happen, and so on...