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Feels like the classic Developer wants to start a business but doesn't really understand marketing, traction, product-market fit, etc. etc. Granted I've done t
by mox1 5y ago
Feels like the classic Developer wants to start a business but doesn't really understand marketing, traction, product-market fit, etc. etc.
Granted I've done the same thing 5 times now, but never again.
Should have mocked up a bare UI in a week, then tried to sell it for a month or two.....
- hu3 5y agoAs a dev, I want to learn how to sell. How do you sell a mockup? Are you upfront with the potential clients about the product not existing and the timeline? I imagine people would have a hard time buying a promise but that's probably because my sales skills suck.
- avgDev 5y agoI have accepted that I need someone who can sell. I can do the tech but I'm just too honest and direct to be a good sales person.
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- threefiftyone96 5y agoWould love to have a chat about what you'd like to sell. Let me know
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> I'm just too honest and direct to be a good sales person You’re going to have a tough time finding a good sales partner if you assume them to be dishonest. Liars aren’t generally good salespeople.
- krageon 5y ago> You’re going to have a tough time finding a good sales partner if you assume them to be dishonest. It might be tough because most won't enjoy hearing it, but marketing is 100% lies. It is frankly dishonest to pretend otherwise.
- achillesheels 5y agoThat’s closed minded. I can find 100 different product data sheets in the next hour to disprove you, but why waste our time?
- krageon 5y agoI speak purely from my not inconsiderable experience speaking to marketeers. Perhaps you have led a life that leads to a different conclusion, all the more power to you. If I spend some time digging into whatever marketing I find, I feel certain the lies will be there.
- heelix 5y agoReminds me of a joke back in my Oracle days. What is the difference between a car and software sales people? The car sales person knows when they were lying.
- switz 5y agoMake something people truly need and you can be as honest and direct as you want. Solve a real problem and you don’t have to utilize any nefarious or manipulative practices to get a sale. You can say you don’t have the skills to sell something, but framing sales as something that is inherently dishonest or a misdirection shows you have a misconception of what sales ultimately is.
- withinboredom 5y agoI think when people say “sales” they mean closing the sale. I’ve seen people fail to close when it was already “sold.” The client was begging without outright saying to sign the contract. The dev just kept on trying to sell the guy, but he was already sold.
- avgDev 5y agoExactly this. By honesty I mean I will go above and beyond to make sure the client would be satisfied, instead of focusing on closing a sale. I get anxious and worried that the client won't be happy and will dislike what I have made. Therefore, a sales rep that can close and just smile would do wonders. Could have probably worded my initial comment better.
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- TYPE_FASTER 5y agoStart here: https://www.growthmentor.com/advice/startup-idea-validation/ https://www.growthmentor.com/advice/startup-idea-validation/
- mox1 5y agoI would start with "The Mom Test". Really helped me out. http://momtestbook.com/ http://momtestbook.com/