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Headline here doesn't match the article headline and is contradicted by the article. There is no passed law.
by detaro 5y ago
Headline here doesn't match the article headline and is contradicted by the article. There is no passed law.
- martin_a 5y agoWhile it does not match the article headline, that's the core aspect of the passed law. The FDP will surely want some (more) help for the industry but the point made by the parliament stands.
- detaro 5y agoThere is no passed law. There is a proposal for a new law that has not been presented to parliament yet, so "German parliament passes law" is just flat out wrong. The only mention of parliament in the article is one of the government parties stating that it in its current shape won't be able to pass parliament. Flagging this, you can't distort content like that, especially if the majority of readers has to rely on machine translation. But congrats, you now have a clear falsehood top of the front page, well done.
- _3u10 5y agoThe important thing is that it says something HN users agree with therefore it’s true.
- capableweb 5y agoNot to mention that the title here on HN is in English while the article itself is in German, so you're right, not matching at all.
- detaro 5y agoThat too, but I'm not 100% sure if there is an explicit rule about foreign language content or not. But especially if most readers need to rely on machine translation it has to be precise. EDIT: per dang 23 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30663877 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30663877 > We have deep respect for languages, but HN is an English-language site, so posts here need to be in English. > That may require waiting until a good English-language article appears, but the more significant the topic is, the more (and sooner) this is likely to happen.
- coryrc 5y agoAdditionally it appears to only be about electricity and now addressing the bigger users of energy, transportation and heating.
- sandos 5y agoThat is huge, heating with gas seems to be very very common, on the order of 50% of all households use it, or about 460TWh per year. The electricity production is 580 TWh per year, so its a sizeable proportion of that. Now heatpumps are efficent so not sure how much electricity will be needed, but it will be a lot.
- nmehner 5y agoTransportation and heating will be electrified. Electric car share in new cars is 15% and climbing fast. New gas/oil heating installations will be (almost) forbidden from 2024 on (65% of heating energy must come from renewable energies). So electric energy is what is relevant for the future.
- jeffbee 5y agoHow far in the future, though? The majority of cars on the road will still be non-electric for years even after EVs take over 100% of the market, because cars are so long-lived.
- nmehner 5y agoBy 2025 probably the majority of new cars in Europe will be electric and by 2027 >80%. After that the share of electric cars in the fleet will increase by about 4-6% every year. Almost complete electrification will probably take until 2040. If robotic cars take off and people stop owning cars in larger numbers, things might be faster. Also old combustion cars might still exist, but these are often cars that are not moving a lot.
- coryrc 5y agoYour assertion does not seem realistic. Germans won't let go of the combustion engine easily nor have demonstrated the correct investments to be able to ramp production up to those numbers in only the years.