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'Scheme' in this case is a Britishism, basically meaning a project (not something nefarious).

nr2x 5y ago
Yup, as an American living in UK for a bit it was very confusing to be required to sign up for numerous government schemes.
- R0b0t1 5y ago
  At least it's refreshing that their government admits they've been scheming.
IshKebab 5y ago
Is it really unique to Britain? It's the first definition on Wiktionary and it doesn't mention anything about it being regional. Is scheme really only negatively in America?
- dangrossman 5y ago
  Yes. The Wiktionary entry mentions this: "In the US, generally has devious connotations, while in the UK, frequently used as a neutral term for projects"
  - IshKebab 5y ago
    Ah I missed that. Interesting!
- grayrest 5y ago
  It might be used this way in other commonwealth countries. In the US we'd use plan, project (personal endeavor), or program (government endeavor) instead. Scheme itself means the same thing but it's fallen out of use and the only times I've encountered it is when the speaker wants to distance themself from it: get rich quick scheme, hare-brained scheme, nefarious scheme, malicious scheme, etc.
wolverine876 5y ago
Would Brits scheme, as a verb, in a non-nefarious way? I note we here use schema, which is partly why I interpret a scheme neutrally.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  No, I don't think we would. The verb carries an amount of deviousness. I don't know how the word carries so substantially different moral leanings, but that's English. I'm sure there are many other words with evil twins.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > I don't know how the word carries so substantially different moral leanings, but that's English. There's a book published by some Brits in Oxford that very usefully researches the history of English words. They have found examples of all the meanings discussed here from the mid-to-late 17th and early 18th centuries, FWIW.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    English doesn't need words with evil twins. English is much more cunning than that in that the same word can have totally opposite meanings. They tend to be more slang usage, but for example "shit". Without recreating the George Carlin bit, there's so many different meanings depending on how it is used.
    - wolverine876 5y ago
      Word meanings evolve many ways. Sometimes two word forms evolve independently and coincidentally to the same outcome. Sometimes a word develops from Latin or Greek, and then centuries later someone coins a different word from the same Latin or Greek. Sometimes people apply old words to new situations. Etc. If you look up the field of etymology, you can find many models of how words form.

nr2x 5y ago

Yup, as an American living in UK for a bit it was very confusing to be required to sign up for numerous government schemes.

R0b0t1 5y ago
At least it's refreshing that their government admits they've been scheming.

IshKebab 5y ago

Is it really unique to Britain? It's the first definition on Wiktionary and it doesn't mention anything about it being regional. Is scheme really only negatively in America?

dangrossman 5y ago
Yes. The Wiktionary entry mentions this: "In the US, generally has devious connotations, while in the UK, frequently used as a neutral term for projects"
- IshKebab 5y ago
  Ah I missed that. Interesting!
grayrest 5y ago
It might be used this way in other commonwealth countries. In the US we'd use plan, project (personal endeavor), or program (government endeavor) instead. Scheme itself means the same thing but it's fallen out of use and the only times I've encountered it is when the speaker wants to distance themself from it: get rich quick scheme, hare-brained scheme, nefarious scheme, malicious scheme, etc.

wolverine876 5y ago

Would Brits scheme, as a verb, in a non-nefarious way? I note we here use schema, which is partly why I interpret a scheme neutrally.

oliwarner 5y ago
No, I don't think we would. The verb carries an amount of deviousness. I don't know how the word carries so substantially different moral leanings, but that's English. I'm sure there are many other words with evil twins.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > I don't know how the word carries so substantially different moral leanings, but that's English. There's a book published by some Brits in Oxford that very usefully researches the history of English words. They have found examples of all the meanings discussed here from the mid-to-late 17th and early 18th centuries, FWIW.
- dylan604 5y ago
  English doesn't need words with evil twins. English is much more cunning than that in that the same word can have totally opposite meanings. They tend to be more slang usage, but for example "shit". Without recreating the George Carlin bit, there's so many different meanings depending on how it is used.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    Word meanings evolve many ways. Sometimes two word forms evolve independently and coincidentally to the same outcome. Sometimes a word develops from Latin or Greek, and then centuries later someone coins a different word from the same Latin or Greek. Sometimes people apply old words to new situations. Etc. If you look up the field of etymology, you can find many models of how words form.