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I can't speak to lightroom, but I found that CaptureOne renders Sony RAWs much better out-of-the-box than either Darktable or RawTherapee.

paulmd 5y ago
Yes. "Open-source workflow" means you're leaving quality on the table. This is one place where there's just no replacement to hiring engineers to sit down and work on the product for a few years. The open-source stuff is nowhere close to CaptureOne or Lightroom in terms of quality of RAW conversion or the quality of the image processing.
- Melatonic 5y ago
  I found CaptureOne to beat out all of Adobes stuff by quite a bit as well
  - paulmd 5y ago
    I haven't used it but I hear very very good things. Does CaptureOne support a "RAW+sidecar metadata" format? It is important to me that the raws not be modified (i.e. metadata not written directly to them) and that the metadata be a per-file sidecar and not just a single giant catalog file. Lightroom seems to support this workflow but others didn't seem to (or at least didn't explicitly state they did). That would be the ideal workflow for me in terms of generating useful catalogs and making backups smooth.
    - Melatonic 5y ago
      It definitely does yes and that is the default. CaptureOne is basically the highest tier of the proprietary photo editing apps out there. You do not need one of their very expensive medium format cameras to use it
      - moolcool 5y ago
        > You do not need one of their very expensive medium format cameras to use it Not only that, but they also have an extensive collection of camera profiles and lens corrections for pretty much every vendor. Their support for Sony and Fuji are particularly great.
        bzzzt 5y ago
        Their support for the latest Canon RF lenses (some of which need heavy adjustments by design) is lacking, made worse by them being completely silent about any planned support.
- fidelramos 5y ago
  OP here. > "Open-source workflow" means you're leaving quality on the table. That is true, but my choice of software is not uni-dimensional, I also care about trusting the software I run in my computer and their maintainability in the long term, to highlight two other important dimensions for me. When considering all this together I have little choice but to use free software exclusively. Of course different people will assign different weights to each dimension, and that is completely fine, but let's not oversimplify the decision to just "quality".

paulmd 5y ago

Yes. "Open-source workflow" means you're leaving quality on the table. This is one place where there's just no replacement to hiring engineers to sit down and work on the product for a few years. The open-source stuff is nowhere close to CaptureOne or Lightroom in terms of quality of RAW conversion or the quality of the image processing.

Melatonic 5y ago
I found CaptureOne to beat out all of Adobes stuff by quite a bit as well
- paulmd 5y ago
  I haven't used it but I hear very very good things. Does CaptureOne support a "RAW+sidecar metadata" format? It is important to me that the raws not be modified (i.e. metadata not written directly to them) and that the metadata be a per-file sidecar and not just a single giant catalog file. Lightroom seems to support this workflow but others didn't seem to (or at least didn't explicitly state they did). That would be the ideal workflow for me in terms of generating useful catalogs and making backups smooth.
  - Melatonic 5y ago
    It definitely does yes and that is the default. CaptureOne is basically the highest tier of the proprietary photo editing apps out there. You do not need one of their very expensive medium format cameras to use it
    - moolcool 5y ago
      > You do not need one of their very expensive medium format cameras to use it Not only that, but they also have an extensive collection of camera profiles and lens corrections for pretty much every vendor. Their support for Sony and Fuji are particularly great.
      - bzzzt 5y ago
        Their support for the latest Canon RF lenses (some of which need heavy adjustments by design) is lacking, made worse by them being completely silent about any planned support.
fidelramos 5y ago
OP here. > "Open-source workflow" means you're leaving quality on the table. That is true, but my choice of software is not uni-dimensional, I also care about trusting the software I run in my computer and their maintainability in the long term, to highlight two other important dimensions for me. When considering all this together I have little choice but to use free software exclusively. Of course different people will assign different weights to each dimension, and that is completely fine, but let's not oversimplify the decision to just "quality".