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I don't like /r/place - I spend time in several regional subreddits, and they've transferred their nationalistic identity wars to Reddit. They're constantly fig

I don't like /r/place - I spend time in several regional subreddits, and they've transferred their nationalistic identity wars to Reddit. They're constantly fighting to build and rebuild their flags. Now those regional subs are littered with one post after another of "come on, we need your help to defend our flag" nonsense. It's all pointless and divisive.

nsilvestri 5y ago
It's a game. Games can have competition. Sometimes that's what makes them fun.
- badkitty99 5y ago
- moffkalast 5y ago
  One might call it a "capture the flag"
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  And flags are some of the few pixel arts that most people can casually coordinate for, once the intended size is apparent.
- colordrops 5y ago
  it's a game that overtakes many subreddits for a significant period of time.
treesknees 5y ago
It was divisive everywhere. I saw so many posts from folks arguing why X or Y shouldn't be on the board, or shouldn't use up so much space, or how flags were too boring. I stopped playing after the first day because of all the anger around it.
- zeven7 5y ago
  I saw a lot of people having fun and didn't see people getting really angry. Though I'm sure there were people actually getting angry, that happens with every game. Maybe those people should relax more, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I was part of a community maintaining a small logo that got attacked a few times, and we repaired it - part of the fun. I agree with the people who think a canvas full of flags is kind of boring and wish people didn't jump so quickly into nationalistic identities as a way to express themselves, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
  - _jesseb 5y ago
    Yeah I was part of a community that coordinated several logos/art pieces and it was a lot of fun. Almost all of the communities in the area we were in banded together into an alliance and we beat off a bunch of attacks, mainly streamers who thought we looked like easy pickings. Agreed on the flags though, they're just so boring. At least a lot of the flags ended up with artwork on them this time though. Some of the big streamers were pretty irritating too, they just seemed like they wanted to ruin peoples fun. I don't mind chaos but it's more interesting if it's a swarm like the void and not just some guy screaming into a mic to attack a random spot.
    - distances 5y ago
      I think the flags with artwork were brilliant. People coming together and deciding plus coordinating what should be the cultural piece they wanted to be immortalised in the limited space. I didn't participate in placing the pixels but spent some good time just browsing the flags and deciphering the references placed on them.
  - bwoodward 5y ago
    This was also my experience. I was jumping between F1 and Star Wars and had a great time maintaining and branching out. I was really impressed by the level of detail as more shades were introduced.
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  A good chunk of that anger was because of trolls. People extending someone else's flag over other's artwork, random streamers calling their followers for vandalism, and general griefing. Since regular users are limited to one pixel every five minutes, it can be exasperating to see their effort erased in a few seconds.
esperent 5y ago
> It's all pointless and divisive. Seems unfair to blame this on a game. It's more a sign of the times we live in.
kps 5y ago
> It's all pointless and divisive. It's not pointless. Divisiveness drives engagement; engagement drives ad money.
- cuteboy19 5y ago
  I wonder if they count all the bots as active users
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    A theory that's been floating around is that they might intentionally not have implemented anti-bot measures, in order to pump up user numbers for their IPO.
fullshark 5y ago
The first time was really fun and exciting, one of the last times reddit felt like an actual community and not an agitprop botspam amplifier.
- Loughla 5y ago
  Honestly, Robin was the last time I felt like reddit was actual people, instead of bots and bullshit. The random chats that grew or died was a fascinating way to talk to new people. it was genuinely fun. Now they have a chat feature apparently (I'm always on RIF now) but I'm betting that's just awful.
gnubison 5y ago
If you look at r/place and see a bunch of flags … look closer? Sure, there are flags. There is also a ridiculous amount of pixel art created and protected by tireless fans of the games that have left their mark all over the canvas.

nsilvestri 5y ago

It's a game. Games can have competition. Sometimes that's what makes them fun.

badkitty99 5y ago
moffkalast 5y ago
One might call it a "capture the flag"
ASalazarMX 5y ago
And flags are some of the few pixel arts that most people can casually coordinate for, once the intended size is apparent.
colordrops 5y ago
it's a game that overtakes many subreddits for a significant period of time.

treesknees 5y ago

It was divisive everywhere. I saw so many posts from folks arguing why X or Y shouldn't be on the board, or shouldn't use up so much space, or how flags were too boring. I stopped playing after the first day because of all the anger around it.

zeven7 5y ago
I saw a lot of people having fun and didn't see people getting really angry. Though I'm sure there were people actually getting angry, that happens with every game. Maybe those people should relax more, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I was part of a community maintaining a small logo that got attacked a few times, and we repaired it - part of the fun. I agree with the people who think a canvas full of flags is kind of boring and wish people didn't jump so quickly into nationalistic identities as a way to express themselves, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
- _jesseb 5y ago
  Yeah I was part of a community that coordinated several logos/art pieces and it was a lot of fun. Almost all of the communities in the area we were in banded together into an alliance and we beat off a bunch of attacks, mainly streamers who thought we looked like easy pickings. Agreed on the flags though, they're just so boring. At least a lot of the flags ended up with artwork on them this time though. Some of the big streamers were pretty irritating too, they just seemed like they wanted to ruin peoples fun. I don't mind chaos but it's more interesting if it's a swarm like the void and not just some guy screaming into a mic to attack a random spot.
  - distances 5y ago
    I think the flags with artwork were brilliant. People coming together and deciding plus coordinating what should be the cultural piece they wanted to be immortalised in the limited space. I didn't participate in placing the pixels but spent some good time just browsing the flags and deciphering the references placed on them.
- bwoodward 5y ago
  This was also my experience. I was jumping between F1 and Star Wars and had a great time maintaining and branching out. I was really impressed by the level of detail as more shades were introduced.
ASalazarMX 5y ago
A good chunk of that anger was because of trolls. People extending someone else's flag over other's artwork, random streamers calling their followers for vandalism, and general griefing. Since regular users are limited to one pixel every five minutes, it can be exasperating to see their effort erased in a few seconds.

esperent 5y ago

> It's all pointless and divisive. Seems unfair to blame this on a game. It's more a sign of the times we live in.

kps 5y ago

> It's all pointless and divisive. It's not pointless. Divisiveness drives engagement; engagement drives ad money.

cuteboy19 5y ago
I wonder if they count all the bots as active users
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  A theory that's been floating around is that they might intentionally not have implemented anti-bot measures, in order to pump up user numbers for their IPO.

fullshark 5y ago

The first time was really fun and exciting, one of the last times reddit felt like an actual community and not an agitprop botspam amplifier.

Loughla 5y ago
Honestly, Robin was the last time I felt like reddit was actual people, instead of bots and bullshit. The random chats that grew or died was a fascinating way to talk to new people. it was genuinely fun. Now they have a chat feature apparently (I'm always on RIF now) but I'm betting that's just awful.

gnubison 5y ago

If you look at r/place and see a bunch of flags … look closer? Sure, there are flags. There is also a ridiculous amount of pixel art created and protected by tireless fans of the games that have left their mark all over the canvas.