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This article is well made and uncovers very interesting thing. I love how it was technically put together, browsing it on mobile was a great experience, chapeau

This article is well made and uncovers very interesting thing. I love how it was technically put together, browsing it on mobile was a great experience, chapeaux bas, i love how great new formats are available to publishers in the digital era outside of serving autoplaying ads. On thing that caught my attention was the supposed USCentric approach since it counted a distance in miles. I also wonder whether it was translated into russian so it can be shared with russian citizens that they’re being lied to by TikTok

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tokai 5y ago
Something went wrong with the distance. As there is ~80km between Kharkiv and Belgorod and not 80 miles. If they meant to use Norwgian miles eight would have been correct.
- karencarits 5y ago
  You are right, the original says "Fra russiske Belgorod til ukrainske Kharkiv er det rundt åtte mil" which is 80 km
  - Symbiote 5y ago
    AI-powered translation tools (Google Translate) can be terrible with this situation. Naturally, I can't get Google Translate to do this now, but I see text like "Vi kjører 100 km. Det koster 30 kr" translated to "We drive 100 miles. It costs 30 SEK" -- km/miles is obviously wrong, and I think kr→SEK (even when it's either kr, kronor, crowns or NOK in English) is because there's more Swedish than Norwegian on the internet. (I get unreasonably annoyed when people convert metric units into American when translating text into English. The English is used by a far wider audience than Americans, and outside the USA it's reasonable to expect Americans to understand metric units.)
    - RugnirViking 5y ago
      Google translate isn't even consistent in how it translates "kr" - I have seen it go into SEK, NOK, ISK and DKK at various times, seemingly random even when it correctly tells me which language it is specifically translating from.
vages 5y ago
> outside of serving autoplaying ads NRK is Norway’s equivalent to the BBC. I’m not sure about the BBC, but NRK is not allowed to run ads. More importantly, they have a number of great in-house developers that churn out quality content and a great video streaming service (tv.nrk.no).
- SecondChildSev 5y ago
  The BBC isn't allowed to run ads either. They are also generally can't recommend products without talking about alternatives. Always amusing on kids arts/crafts shows when they name a brand and then have to state other products that are available. They can display adverts under certain circumstances though. Public billboards aren't censored in news reports, and adverts on the sidelines/stands of sporting events (like football) can still be seen.
  - James-Livesey 5y ago
    It's only a requirement for content served inside the UK though; international content (such as BBC.com) is allowed to (and sometimes does) show ads because it's technically not covered by the licensing agreement for the UK.
  - Eduard 5y ago
    Browsing bbc.co.uk, e.g. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60947877 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60947877 , from outside of UK, half the page estate is dedicated advertisement.
    - KSPAtlas 5y ago
      Not here
- petepete 5y ago
  BBC doesn't run ads in the UK but the BBC World Service has done on some stations for a few years.
- qiskit 5y ago
cbjoerke 5y ago
Hi! Thanks for your kind words. We have corrected it to kilometeres. All the best, Christian/NRK
- GoRudy 5y ago
  What software / platform are you using to serve that kind of content? Very well done
  - nicce 5y ago
    In Finland, national newsmedia Yle is forced to serve mostly similar content because of some legistlation that it cannot purely act as normal news site (text only), as it is traditionally broadcasting company. They serve content like this to bypass these rules.
- HatchedLake721 5y ago
  Would you consider creating a Russian version of this?
otabdeveloper4 5y ago
Wait, do you really think residents of a city 80 km away, one that they used to commute to for groceries and stuff, get their news from Tik Tok? How out of touch are you? For God's sake, they can practically see Kharkiv out of their window!
- pjc50 5y ago
  You can't see 80km from the ground, and it's on the other side of a closed international border and the war itself. Residents of Belgorod can have little to no idea what's happening in Kharkiv other than the news. Well, that and the gigantic explosion of the local oil depot. Heck, in many places around the world people get most local news from social media apps.
  - otabdeveloper4 5y ago
    Seriously? Imagine an alternate universe where Canada and USA went to war. Do you really think that people in Seattle would have to depend on German social media apps to figure out what goes on in Vancouver while it's being bombed? Seriously?
    - yywwbbn 5y ago
      What would the alternative be if US banned all independent media sources (like Russia did)?
      - d0mine 5y ago
        unrelated: could you name one just one US media source that you consider to be independent (with an anti-war article where US is perpetrator).
        Symbiote 5y ago
        You have changed the question. Russia has banned foreign media, in addition to restricting local media to publishing the government view. Since I'm British, and you'd probably consider the US and UK equivalent for this purpose, here's a major British newspaper article arguing against NATO action in Libya: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/mar/23/nothing-moral-nato-intervention-libya https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/mar/23/nothin... (Given https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_US, it probably counts for the US anyway.)
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cinntaile 5y ago
1 Scandinavian mile = 10 kilometers. Only used in Sweden and Norway by the way.
- WelcomeShorty 5y ago
  I thought you where joking, but you are not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile TIL.
  - kreddor 5y ago
    As a Dane, that really surprised me.
- elygre 5y ago
  As a Norwegian, I have never seen the Norwegian word “mil” translated into English, because there is no English equivalent. Instead, we always convert into kilometers or miles, depending on the audience. This was a first, and I blame someone else.
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arendtio 5y ago
> I love how it was technically put together, browsing it on mobile was a great experience, chapeaux bas Actually, my experience was the exact opposite on a desktop. First, I landed on a black page which showed some video for less than a second and afterwards the page didn't respond anymore. After switching from Firefox to Chromium, the page probably worked as it was intended. Nevertheless, scrolling with a mouse I landed somewhere between the right positions. So I tried using the buttons on the left and while the positions, I landed were much better, it felt very awkward to continuously press buttons on the left while my hand was on the right (might be good for left-handed people). Furthermore, the videos played somewhat irritating, as if they continued playing when you went to the next part or paused a bit delayed. So when switching to a previous part you land somewhere in the middle of the clips. So while admire the story, I didn't enjoy the experience.

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tokai 5y ago

Something went wrong with the distance. As there is ~80km between Kharkiv and Belgorod and not 80 miles. If they meant to use Norwgian miles eight would have been correct.

karencarits 5y ago
You are right, the original says "Fra russiske Belgorod til ukrainske Kharkiv er det rundt åtte mil" which is 80 km
- Symbiote 5y ago
  AI-powered translation tools (Google Translate) can be terrible with this situation. Naturally, I can't get Google Translate to do this now, but I see text like "Vi kjører 100 km. Det koster 30 kr" translated to "We drive 100 miles. It costs 30 SEK" -- km/miles is obviously wrong, and I think kr→SEK (even when it's either kr, kronor, crowns or NOK in English) is because there's more Swedish than Norwegian on the internet. (I get unreasonably annoyed when people convert metric units into American when translating text into English. The English is used by a far wider audience than Americans, and outside the USA it's reasonable to expect Americans to understand metric units.)
  - RugnirViking 5y ago
    Google translate isn't even consistent in how it translates "kr" - I have seen it go into SEK, NOK, ISK and DKK at various times, seemingly random even when it correctly tells me which language it is specifically translating from.

vages 5y ago

> outside of serving autoplaying ads NRK is Norway’s equivalent to the BBC. I’m not sure about the BBC, but NRK is not allowed to run ads. More importantly, they have a number of great in-house developers that churn out quality content and a great video streaming service (tv.nrk.no).

SecondChildSev 5y ago
The BBC isn't allowed to run ads either. They are also generally can't recommend products without talking about alternatives. Always amusing on kids arts/crafts shows when they name a brand and then have to state other products that are available. They can display adverts under certain circumstances though. Public billboards aren't censored in news reports, and adverts on the sidelines/stands of sporting events (like football) can still be seen.
- James-Livesey 5y ago
  It's only a requirement for content served inside the UK though; international content (such as BBC.com) is allowed to (and sometimes does) show ads because it's technically not covered by the licensing agreement for the UK.
- Eduard 5y ago
  Browsing bbc.co.uk, e.g. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60947877 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60947877 , from outside of UK, half the page estate is dedicated advertisement.
  - KSPAtlas 5y ago
    Not here
petepete 5y ago
BBC doesn't run ads in the UK but the BBC World Service has done on some stations for a few years.
qiskit 5y ago

cbjoerke 5y ago

Hi! Thanks for your kind words. We have corrected it to kilometeres. All the best, Christian/NRK

GoRudy 5y ago
What software / platform are you using to serve that kind of content? Very well done
- nicce 5y ago
  In Finland, national newsmedia Yle is forced to serve mostly similar content because of some legistlation that it cannot purely act as normal news site (text only), as it is traditionally broadcasting company. They serve content like this to bypass these rules.
HatchedLake721 5y ago
Would you consider creating a Russian version of this?

otabdeveloper4 5y ago

Wait, do you really think residents of a city 80 km away, one that they used to commute to for groceries and stuff, get their news from Tik Tok? How out of touch are you? For God's sake, they can practically see Kharkiv out of their window!

pjc50 5y ago
You can't see 80km from the ground, and it's on the other side of a closed international border and the war itself. Residents of Belgorod can have little to no idea what's happening in Kharkiv other than the news. Well, that and the gigantic explosion of the local oil depot. Heck, in many places around the world people get most local news from social media apps.
- otabdeveloper4 5y ago
  Seriously? Imagine an alternate universe where Canada and USA went to war. Do you really think that people in Seattle would have to depend on German social media apps to figure out what goes on in Vancouver while it's being bombed? Seriously?
  - yywwbbn 5y ago
    What would the alternative be if US banned all independent media sources (like Russia did)?
    - d0mine 5y ago
      unrelated: could you name one just one US media source that you consider to be independent (with an anti-war article where US is perpetrator).
      - Symbiote 5y ago
        You have changed the question. Russia has banned foreign media, in addition to restricting local media to publishing the government view. Since I'm British, and you'd probably consider the US and UK equivalent for this purpose, here's a major British newspaper article arguing against NATO action in Libya: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/mar/23/nothing-moral-nato-intervention-libya https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/mar/23/nothin... (Given https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_US, it probably counts for the US anyway.)

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cinntaile 5y ago

1 Scandinavian mile = 10 kilometers. Only used in Sweden and Norway by the way.

WelcomeShorty 5y ago
I thought you where joking, but you are not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile TIL.
- kreddor 5y ago
  As a Dane, that really surprised me.
elygre 5y ago
As a Norwegian, I have never seen the Norwegian word “mil” translated into English, because there is no English equivalent. Instead, we always convert into kilometers or miles, depending on the audience. This was a first, and I blame someone else.

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arendtio 5y ago

> I love how it was technically put together, browsing it on mobile was a great experience, chapeaux bas Actually, my experience was the exact opposite on a desktop. First, I landed on a black page which showed some video for less than a second and afterwards the page didn't respond anymore. After switching from Firefox to Chromium, the page probably worked as it was intended. Nevertheless, scrolling with a mouse I landed somewhere between the right positions. So I tried using the buttons on the left and while the positions, I landed were much better, it felt very awkward to continuously press buttons on the left while my hand was on the right (might be good for left-handed people). Furthermore, the videos played somewhat irritating, as if they continued playing when you went to the next part or paused a bit delayed. So when switching to a previous part you land somewhere in the middle of the clips. So while admire the story, I didn't enjoy the experience.