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>I just ordered Kia EV6, friends were laughing: “we get new battery technology in couple years and you car will be soon outdated”. This isn't really the right

>I just ordered Kia EV6, friends were laughing: “we get new battery technology in couple years and you car will be soon outdated”. This isn't really the right take. Production at scale isn't happening. Cars won't be the first applications because of huge safety concerns. Much easier to stop a battery fire when it's a cellphone. >I must wait for my car almost a year. Volkswagen group delivers car in almost 2 years when I order today. Even if the new batteries will come out, my Kia EV6 will be absolutely fine for my weekly 300 miles. Oh ya, it is a matter of time for new battery tech. I believe Tesla will be using a new battery tech in the cyber truck. Then again, where's that at? It's going to be at a premium for sure. Your EV6, ID4, or even BZX4 type vehicles will be the current battery tech for many years. You're going to love your EV6.

chrisco255 5y ago
> Then again, where's that at? I believe they're going to be building the Cybertruck at the new Austin plant. The plant is still under construction but looks pretty far along from the highway. It's kinda cool how they built the factory with large glass windows on the outside so you can see in from the road.
JKCalhoun 5y ago
> Cars won't be the first applications because of huge safety concerns. I expect you're right. When I read "higher energy density" I think "closer to being an actual bomb", ha ha.
- incomingpain 5y ago
  >I expect you're right. When I read "higher energy density" I think "closer to being an actual bomb", ha ha. https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/Hammond's_Rimac_Crash_(TGT) https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/Hammond's_Rimac_Crash_(TGT) That Rimac caught fire and they couldn't stop the fire for days. https://www.reddit.com/r/thegrandtour/comments/7in8bc/comment/dqzzqfh/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/thegrandtour/comments/7in8bc/commen... With higher energy density, for the most part the application will be that we provide a smaller battery for the same range and lower cost. that fire will still be a thing, it's just so much energy. Here's the flipside. Did you know like 1/4 of firemen calls are for gasoline vehicles catching fire? I had a rust bucket that if you braked hard enough gasoline came out of the tank. We are dealing with explosive flammable fluid. EV cars are tremendously safer and even if we invented a battery that only needed recharging twice a year and held immense power. It wouldn't be a bomb. It would just be a crazy fire.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  If you store your energy in a smaller volume, it gets easier to protect. It gets harder again if you want to store more energy, but the density by itself is a positive. Anyway, wake me up when we are talking about something with an energy density any close to gasoline.

chrisco255 5y ago

> Then again, where's that at? I believe they're going to be building the Cybertruck at the new Austin plant. The plant is still under construction but looks pretty far along from the highway. It's kinda cool how they built the factory with large glass windows on the outside so you can see in from the road.

JKCalhoun 5y ago

> Cars won't be the first applications because of huge safety concerns. I expect you're right. When I read "higher energy density" I think "closer to being an actual bomb", ha ha.

incomingpain 5y ago
>I expect you're right. When I read "higher energy density" I think "closer to being an actual bomb", ha ha. https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/Hammond's_Rimac_Crash_(TGT) https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/Hammond's_Rimac_Crash_(TGT) That Rimac caught fire and they couldn't stop the fire for days. https://www.reddit.com/r/thegrandtour/comments/7in8bc/comment/dqzzqfh/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/thegrandtour/comments/7in8bc/commen... With higher energy density, for the most part the application will be that we provide a smaller battery for the same range and lower cost. that fire will still be a thing, it's just so much energy. Here's the flipside. Did you know like 1/4 of firemen calls are for gasoline vehicles catching fire? I had a rust bucket that if you braked hard enough gasoline came out of the tank. We are dealing with explosive flammable fluid. EV cars are tremendously safer and even if we invented a battery that only needed recharging twice a year and held immense power. It wouldn't be a bomb. It would just be a crazy fire.
marcosdumay 5y ago
If you store your energy in a smaller volume, it gets easier to protect. It gets harder again if you want to store more energy, but the density by itself is a positive. Anyway, wake me up when we are talking about something with an energy density any close to gasoline.