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The really stupid part is that the new Edge is actually great. Letting people figure that out for themselves word spread organically would be more effective th

by jmkni 5y ago

The really stupid part is that the new Edge is actually great. Letting people figure that out for themselves word spread organically would be more effective than trying to shove it down everyone’s throats.

Supermancho 5y ago
> The really stupid part is that the new Edge is actually great. Stupid eh? As a developer, I confidently place Edge below Firefox in terms of usability and customization for my purposes.
- flatiron 5y ago
  It’s literally chromium. I’m also a developer and have had 0 regressions on edge. If it works in chrome, in my experience, it works in edge.
  - Supermancho 5y ago
    > It’s literally chromium. The engine is just one part of a browser. Edge is not the same as Chrome.
- eps 5y ago
  ...and that's without considering its always-on telemetry.
blibble 5y ago
how is it great? it's a shittier version of Chrome laden with more telemetry, ads, coupon bullshit and abusive "pay later" schemes standard Microsoft
- rejectfinite 5y ago
  The vertical tabs are great and are actually native. Only browser that does 4k Netflix. Fast and least resource/battery use on Windows. Ublock origin still works. Yes, Firefox is my first choice. But Edge is actually good.
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    > The vertical tabs are great and are actually native. Vertical tabs? I'm off to try it, on my Kubuntu machine. I don't like Vivaldi's vertical tabs, but I love Tree-Style Tabs on Firefox.
    - rejectfinite 5y ago
      There is no tree style function, its "just" a list. https://www.howtogeek.com/718693/how-to-use-vertical-tabs-in-microsoft-edge/ https://www.howtogeek.com/718693/how-to-use-vertical-tabs-in...
      - dotancohen 5y ago
        Still better than standard Chrome, which if I understand correctly cannot implement any vertical tabs because of the lack of side pane. But yes, the killer feature of TST is the tree function.
  - npteljes 5y ago
    >Only browser that does 4k Netflix. Unfortunately that's a business decision, not a testament to the greatness of Edge. The different browsers and properties of the PC constitute a "security level" in the DRM module, and Netflix ties its offerings to the different security levels. You could say that with IE, you have the least control over your Netflix stream and that's why they let you play their content in 4k. Nevertheless, Edge could be a good browser otherwise. What I wanted to point out is only the point about 4k Netflix. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widevine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widevine
- sp332 5y ago
  Vertical tabs, reader mode, tracker blocker, better bookmark management, read-aloud feature.
  - Godel_unicode 5y ago
    Not to mention defender application guard, which lets you with two clicks launch a browser tab in a separate VM for isolation.
- Godel_unicode 5y ago
  Has anyone done a rigorous comparison between the on-by-default telemetry in Chrome, Edge, and Firefox? Since they all have it and all use similar words, I'm curious what the differences really are (outside of ideological preference for who gets your data).
  - freediver 5y ago
    Yes. https://brave.com/popular-browsers-first-run/ https://brave.com/popular-browsers-first-run/ They concluded Brave was the "best" with "only" 80 calls home. As a maker of a zero telemetry browser, I can only chuckle at that. https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#privacy https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#privacy
FridayoLeary 5y ago
To be fair it's pretty much indistinguishable from Chrome. To test this point I'm using it now for almost the first time. Aside from a few minor tweaks it really looks like a copy/paste of Chrome. Maybe there's stuff under the hood that i'm missing, but i really don't care.
AlexandrB 5y ago
Chrome was great but they still bundled it with Java and other installers back in the day to increase adoption. I think you'd be surprised how well shoving things down a non-technical person's throat works.
GekkePrutser 5y ago
It's just chrome with the Google telemetry and services replaced by MS ones. Microsoft's sync for example. To be honest I don't really understand why MS is so hell-bent on everyone using it. It's free and they don't even develop most of it. I guess that telemetry is really a goldmine otherwise I don't see why they would pushing it so incessantly in Windows.

by jmkni 5y ago

Supermancho 5y ago

> The really stupid part is that the new Edge is actually great. Stupid eh? As a developer, I confidently place Edge below Firefox in terms of usability and customization for my purposes.

flatiron 5y ago
It’s literally chromium. I’m also a developer and have had 0 regressions on edge. If it works in chrome, in my experience, it works in edge.
- Supermancho 5y ago
  > It’s literally chromium. The engine is just one part of a browser. Edge is not the same as Chrome.
eps 5y ago
...and that's without considering its always-on telemetry.

blibble 5y ago

how is it great? it's a shittier version of Chrome laden with more telemetry, ads, coupon bullshit and abusive "pay later" schemes standard Microsoft

rejectfinite 5y ago
The vertical tabs are great and are actually native. Only browser that does 4k Netflix. Fast and least resource/battery use on Windows. Ublock origin still works. Yes, Firefox is my first choice. But Edge is actually good.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  > The vertical tabs are great and are actually native. Vertical tabs? I'm off to try it, on my Kubuntu machine. I don't like Vivaldi's vertical tabs, but I love Tree-Style Tabs on Firefox.
  - rejectfinite 5y ago
    There is no tree style function, its "just" a list. https://www.howtogeek.com/718693/how-to-use-vertical-tabs-in-microsoft-edge/ https://www.howtogeek.com/718693/how-to-use-vertical-tabs-in...
    - dotancohen 5y ago
      Still better than standard Chrome, which if I understand correctly cannot implement any vertical tabs because of the lack of side pane. But yes, the killer feature of TST is the tree function.
- npteljes 5y ago
  >Only browser that does 4k Netflix. Unfortunately that's a business decision, not a testament to the greatness of Edge. The different browsers and properties of the PC constitute a "security level" in the DRM module, and Netflix ties its offerings to the different security levels. You could say that with IE, you have the least control over your Netflix stream and that's why they let you play their content in 4k. Nevertheless, Edge could be a good browser otherwise. What I wanted to point out is only the point about 4k Netflix. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widevine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widevine
sp332 5y ago
Vertical tabs, reader mode, tracker blocker, better bookmark management, read-aloud feature.
- Godel_unicode 5y ago
  Not to mention defender application guard, which lets you with two clicks launch a browser tab in a separate VM for isolation.
Godel_unicode 5y ago
Has anyone done a rigorous comparison between the on-by-default telemetry in Chrome, Edge, and Firefox? Since they all have it and all use similar words, I'm curious what the differences really are (outside of ideological preference for who gets your data).
- freediver 5y ago
  Yes. https://brave.com/popular-browsers-first-run/ https://brave.com/popular-browsers-first-run/ They concluded Brave was the "best" with "only" 80 calls home. As a maker of a zero telemetry browser, I can only chuckle at that. https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#privacy https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#privacy

FridayoLeary 5y ago

To be fair it's pretty much indistinguishable from Chrome. To test this point I'm using it now for almost the first time. Aside from a few minor tweaks it really looks like a copy/paste of Chrome. Maybe there's stuff under the hood that i'm missing, but i really don't care.

AlexandrB 5y ago

Chrome was great but they still bundled it with Java and other installers back in the day to increase adoption. I think you'd be surprised how well shoving things down a non-technical person's throat works.

GekkePrutser 5y ago

It's just chrome with the Google telemetry and services replaced by MS ones. Microsoft's sync for example. To be honest I don't really understand why MS is so hell-bent on everyone using it. It's free and they don't even develop most of it. I guess that telemetry is really a goldmine otherwise I don't see why they would pushing it so incessantly in Windows.