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> [...] rinses the dishes for the dishwasher [...] Is that a thing in the US? My current dishwasher is from 2015, stock standard Ikea. I never had to rinse an

> [...] rinses the dishes for the dishwasher [...] Is that a thing in the US? My current dishwasher is from 2015, stock standard Ikea. I never had to rinse anything for it to come out sparkling clean. Even in the fast program that only runs 64mins. The other day I had an Airbnb guest from NYC and I saw him rinsing. And when asked why he told me that was necessary because the dishwasher couldn't cope with it otherwise and stuff would come out dirty. He looked perplexed when I told him no dishwasher I used for over twenty years required rinsing beforehand. Is this 'rinsing requirement' an urban myth sticking around in some areas of the world? Edit: I live in Berlin but have been living in Australia, the UK, Japan and Italy over the last two decades. No dishwashers in the apartments I lived in in those countries required rinsing either.

thrower123 5y ago
Dishwasher soap in the US is garbage now, so you have to scrub anything that might possibly stick on, despite the wash cycle on my dishwasher taking nearly two and a half hours.
- uxp100 5y ago
  I live in the US, never pre rinse, used cascade platinum or some homemade mix of washing soda and essential oils I received as a gift, both work great, dishes are very clean in the machine.
- virtualritz 5y ago
  I do not think the soap is such a factor. The tabs I use are environmental friendly. I.e. no phosphates, no palm oil, no chlorine. The wrapper dissolves in the machine (an algae-based polymer similar to what is used for capsules to deliver meds). The packaging says: 15-30% bleaching agent based on oxygen. <5% non-ionic surfactants phosphonates, enzymes (protease, amylase), perfume
Belphemur 5y ago
Dishwasher in the US and Canada are using hot water instead of cold water that is managed by the dishwasher. Because of the quality of the water heater and the time it take for hot water to reach the dishwasher you have inconsistent washing. Also most US brand of dishwasher rely on plastic components so I'm pretty sure they can't heat as well as full aluminium one.
bhdy55 5y ago
Do you run the dishwasher as soon as you put items in it, or do put items in throughout the day but not run it until it's full? I wonder if some of the disagreement over this is because food becomes more stuck on the longer one leaves it, and so rinsing is needed if you are not going to start the dishwasher for another 12-18 hours?
- virtualritz 5y ago
  I run it when it's full. I am single and have a dishwasher that is big enough for a family of four (came with the apartment I'm renting). So I run it once every 3–4 days on the quick program when it is full. Some dishes will then have sat in it for up to four days ofc.
- GuB-42 5y ago
  From my experience, rinsing doesn't seem to have much of an effect, no matter how long the food stays in the dishwasher. I use long cycles though, maybe short cycles benefit from it. Scraping other the trashcan is useful to avoid clogging the filters if your dishwasher doesn't have a shredder. Sometimes, dishes don't clean properly, usually, it is because the dishwasher is not loaded properly, or overloaded, but when it isn't, simple rinsing typically wouldn't have helped, and washing the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher makes you wonder why use a dishwasher in the first place. I am aware that commercial dishwashers are a completely different things. These things usually run much more aggressive, faster cycles and they are more about sanitizing than washing, so vigorous rinsing may be necessary.
culopatin 5y ago
My garbage whirlpool dishwasher looks to be from the 90s and a cheap version from back then. I can put a clean plate in it and it might come out dirty. Also part of the rental and my landlord is impossible to deal with so here we are. It doesn’t have a removable filter, just some sort of grille in the back that I have to clean between loads and the shitty texture makes it grip crap like Velcro, not fun.
bentcorner 5y ago
I love this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04&t=0s Dishwasher pods are heavily marketed in the US and actually wash more poorly compared to plain powder. With pods the pre-wash ends up running without detergent, so rinsing off dishes becomes necessary.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  Consumer Reports disagrees. Not all dishwasher pods rank better, but pods consistently make up the vast majority of their top picks, or they have at all of the times I’ve been subscribed. (I usually buy a month of access every couple of years or so. Mostly to see the updated dishwasher detergent reviews tbqh.)
  - elpatoisthebest 5y ago
    I wonder if Consumer Reports has done this test since they tweeted this response and compared the pods to detergent using the pre wash dispenser. https://twitter.com/ConsumerReports/status/1341067270219591685 https://twitter.com/ConsumerReports/status/13410672702195916...
xboxnolifes 5y ago
> Is that a thing in the US For the most part (ignoring old/damaged washers) it's just a holdover from the older generation. My parents and their parents did it, and I expect many of my cohort follow through by example. However, I do not rinse and the results come out the same. The only caveat being that you will still get dirty spots if you over fill or place poorly certain shaped things. This happens regardless of rinsing, and I believe contributes to the myth
tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
No rinsing, even when I let the stuff dry up. Doesn't matter if you select a fast or slow program either, with one exception: The EU mandated "eco" program that is by law the default. Avoid that at all costs because you'd have to run it twice.
andrewflnr 5y ago
A lot of us are still stuck with old, crappy dishwashers. With mine you're lucky if they come out clean even with rinsing.
newaccount74 5y ago
If I rinse the dishes, I can use the 20min express program and dishes are sparkling and dry. I use that program because plastic stuff dries better than with the standard program, and we often have more dishes than fit in the dishwasher and I don't want to wait an hour. Also, some foods (egg yolk, dried porridge) don't come off in the dishwasher.
beckingz 5y ago
At a job back in school for a German Historical Institute in the US, I started rinsing dishes and my manager said "You don't need to pre-wash, it's a German Dishwasher"

thrower123 5y ago

Dishwasher soap in the US is garbage now, so you have to scrub anything that might possibly stick on, despite the wash cycle on my dishwasher taking nearly two and a half hours.

uxp100 5y ago
I live in the US, never pre rinse, used cascade platinum or some homemade mix of washing soda and essential oils I received as a gift, both work great, dishes are very clean in the machine.
virtualritz 5y ago
I do not think the soap is such a factor. The tabs I use are environmental friendly. I.e. no phosphates, no palm oil, no chlorine. The wrapper dissolves in the machine (an algae-based polymer similar to what is used for capsules to deliver meds). The packaging says: 15-30% bleaching agent based on oxygen. <5% non-ionic surfactants phosphonates, enzymes (protease, amylase), perfume

Belphemur 5y ago

Dishwasher in the US and Canada are using hot water instead of cold water that is managed by the dishwasher. Because of the quality of the water heater and the time it take for hot water to reach the dishwasher you have inconsistent washing. Also most US brand of dishwasher rely on plastic components so I'm pretty sure they can't heat as well as full aluminium one.

bhdy55 5y ago

Do you run the dishwasher as soon as you put items in it, or do put items in throughout the day but not run it until it's full? I wonder if some of the disagreement over this is because food becomes more stuck on the longer one leaves it, and so rinsing is needed if you are not going to start the dishwasher for another 12-18 hours?

virtualritz 5y ago
I run it when it's full. I am single and have a dishwasher that is big enough for a family of four (came with the apartment I'm renting). So I run it once every 3–4 days on the quick program when it is full. Some dishes will then have sat in it for up to four days ofc.
GuB-42 5y ago
From my experience, rinsing doesn't seem to have much of an effect, no matter how long the food stays in the dishwasher. I use long cycles though, maybe short cycles benefit from it. Scraping other the trashcan is useful to avoid clogging the filters if your dishwasher doesn't have a shredder. Sometimes, dishes don't clean properly, usually, it is because the dishwasher is not loaded properly, or overloaded, but when it isn't, simple rinsing typically wouldn't have helped, and washing the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher makes you wonder why use a dishwasher in the first place. I am aware that commercial dishwashers are a completely different things. These things usually run much more aggressive, faster cycles and they are more about sanitizing than washing, so vigorous rinsing may be necessary.

culopatin 5y ago

My garbage whirlpool dishwasher looks to be from the 90s and a cheap version from back then. I can put a clean plate in it and it might come out dirty. Also part of the rental and my landlord is impossible to deal with so here we are. It doesn’t have a removable filter, just some sort of grille in the back that I have to clean between loads and the shitty texture makes it grip crap like Velcro, not fun.

bentcorner 5y ago

I love this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04&t=0s Dishwasher pods are heavily marketed in the US and actually wash more poorly compared to plain powder. With pods the pre-wash ends up running without detergent, so rinsing off dishes becomes necessary.

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
Consumer Reports disagrees. Not all dishwasher pods rank better, but pods consistently make up the vast majority of their top picks, or they have at all of the times I’ve been subscribed. (I usually buy a month of access every couple of years or so. Mostly to see the updated dishwasher detergent reviews tbqh.)
- elpatoisthebest 5y ago
  I wonder if Consumer Reports has done this test since they tweeted this response and compared the pods to detergent using the pre wash dispenser. https://twitter.com/ConsumerReports/status/1341067270219591685 https://twitter.com/ConsumerReports/status/13410672702195916...

xboxnolifes 5y ago

> Is that a thing in the US For the most part (ignoring old/damaged washers) it's just a holdover from the older generation. My parents and their parents did it, and I expect many of my cohort follow through by example. However, I do not rinse and the results come out the same. The only caveat being that you will still get dirty spots if you over fill or place poorly certain shaped things. This happens regardless of rinsing, and I believe contributes to the myth

tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago

No rinsing, even when I let the stuff dry up. Doesn't matter if you select a fast or slow program either, with one exception: The EU mandated "eco" program that is by law the default. Avoid that at all costs because you'd have to run it twice.

andrewflnr 5y ago

A lot of us are still stuck with old, crappy dishwashers. With mine you're lucky if they come out clean even with rinsing.

newaccount74 5y ago

If I rinse the dishes, I can use the 20min express program and dishes are sparkling and dry. I use that program because plastic stuff dries better than with the standard program, and we often have more dishes than fit in the dishwasher and I don't want to wait an hour. Also, some foods (egg yolk, dried porridge) don't come off in the dishwasher.

beckingz 5y ago

At a job back in school for a German Historical Institute in the US, I started rinsing dishes and my manager said "You don't need to pre-wash, it's a German Dishwasher"