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This "use the words I tell you to use or else you're a bigot" rhetoric is getting really stale, really fast. Edit: I think this might be a terrible attempt at
by laputan_machine 5y ago
This "use the words I tell you to use or else you're a bigot" rhetoric is getting really stale, really fast.
Edit: I think this might be a terrible attempt at satire, e.g. the website is: https://inclusivecoding.wixsite.com/home https://inclusivecoding.wixsite.com/home
- hwers 5y agoWhat about that site makes you think it's satire?
- laputan_machine 5y agoPerhaps 'satire' is the wrong word, but it feels 'off' somehow. I can't quite put it into words I will say that the repo that the bot is using is absolutely whack, https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/gender-inclusive-language https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/gender-inclusive-lang... replaces 'mother' with 'parent', 'boyfriend' with 'consort', 'maiden voyage' with 'first voyage'. What a strange world.
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- xeromal 5y agoYeah, agreed. The site is almost on the nose. Maybe not though and you and I are just that "unwoke" lol
- QuarterReptile 5y agoI think refraining from the use of 'comrade' suggests it's not satire. Otherwise, I would agree that it would be hard to know.
- MatteoFrigo 5y agoI can't tell whether or not you are kidding, but "comrade" is indeed gender-neutral and the Pravda recently recommended using it: https://english.pravda.ru/society/149390-ladies_and_gentlemen/ https://english.pravda.ru/society/149390-ladies_and_gentleme... If the bot replaced "man" with "comrade" it would be accused of being Russian propaganda.
- zarzavat 5y agoThey say “-master” can be replaced with “-maker”, and they give the examples of: shipmaster -> shipmaker headmaster -> headmaker I can understand wanting to coin a new gender neutral suffix to replace “-master” but why would they include a literal counterexample. Very strange.
- KennyBlanken 5y agoThe terrible stock clip art, language that reads much like I would expect a boomer trying to imitate social justice folks would write... It's hosted on Wix, which screams "boomer." I think this is likely some near-retirement-age back-end programmer who is threatened by social justice movements, trying to manufacture outrage/blowback.
- sadmanycases 5y agoGood satire is often indistinguishable from the real thing.
- canbus 5y agoGood satire is also often funny. This is just stupid.
- mechanical_bear 5y agoHumor is subjective.
- dragonwriter 5y agoGood satire is only funny when recognized as satire, and even then only to those who support the actual position it advocates for (the opposite of the one it satirizes.) Otherwise, it trends to be offensive (for different reasons to those who are targeted vs. those who fail to recognize it.)
- nsxwolf 5y agoI often disagree with the viewpoint of an Onion article while simultaneously finding it funny. Same with comedians. I don't need to agree to appreciate a humorous approach the expression of an opinion.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoI do the same at babylon bee, or at least used to. The past couple of years it has really taken a nose dive in quality.
- tiahura 5y agoGood satire should insult the foolish and hypocritical.
- arprocter 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
- abledon 5y agostock photos with stuff like 'love equals love'. thrown together on a quick'n'dirty templating site (Wix) their blog https://inclusivecoding.wixsite.com/home/blog https://inclusivecoding.wixsite.com/home/blog gives 5 tips, but then lists '4' twice
- mseepgood 5y agoI'd say it's a false-flag operation by someone who doesn't like inclusive language.
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- faridelnasire 5y agoYou're underestimating people's stupidity.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoYes. I got called out by some random "offended" person while discussing a master slave topology on i2c bus I was working on in an embedded system with a friend. It was a coffee shop in Austin so it wasn't exactly shocking but the first time in my life so worth mentioning. Also a company I worked at once declared we should use different terms going forward in our own systems that used master/slaves topologies, they had a variety of alternatives.
- crdrost 5y agoI only think I see one thing that stands out... > For example, instead of using using the term "Bachelor" or "Bachelorette", this term can be replaced with the word gender-neutral word "Baccalaureate". This is a substitution that only makes sense in the context of college degrees and even then only barely. (One would not describe a Bachelor of Science degree as a gendered thing, and say that a woman has a Bachelorette of Science degree or so.) A serious website would have recommended a plain word like “unmarried” or “single,” rather than such a strange construct.
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- smegsicle 5y agoa riff on a general trend of taking analogies beyond comprehension- like 'trans' and 'cis' from.. chemistry? or taking the botanical definition of fruit and trying to apply it to 'fruits and vegetables'
- cato_the_elder 5y ago> This is a substitution that only makes sense in the context of college degrees and even then only barely. My college literally had an option for having the "gender neutral" Baccalaureate in your degree, and I think it's becoming even more common.
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- cato_the_elder 5y ago> terrible attempt at satire If it is indeed satire, I think it's actually pretty good. It demonstrates the absurdity of the situation with minimal exaggeration.
- slothtrop 5y agoAgreed, if satire manages to push buttons then it's doing great.
- raunak 5y agoYou guys are all being absurdly ridiculous. I don't know why programmers make such reaches when the answer is much simpler. University student looking for easy side project to create and put on resume decides to go with "inclusive language bot", doesn't actually put in effort beyond wix site and ridiculously simple bot, boom. That's all this is.
- tomlockwood 5y agoYeah, the amount of moralistic tutting and vitriol in this thread is ridiculous. And ironically the same people would complain about moralistic tutting and vitriol.
- psyc 5y agoRight, the ol’ whatever you object to, you’re guilty of routine. No false equivalence there. IGYNYSOAB! Oh no, now I’m guilty too.
- tomlockwood 5y agoHaha! You got me! There's no comparison between people railing against a trend they say is now the status quo and which was mostly formed on echo chamber social media sites by people railing against the status quo, on their echo chamber social media site. :)
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- tjpnz 5y agoYou're probably right about it being an exercise in resume building, and that's totally fine. But then they unleashed their creation on projects as prominent as Rust. If you're looking for that kind of exposure you might want to spend twenty minutes testing the code first.
- yongjik 5y ago> If you're looking for that kind of exposure you might want to spend twenty minutes testing the code first. Eh... I think that part is explained by "University student" ...