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I really hope this is sarcasm. Are you really suggesting an AP in every room? An AP and a router are not the same thing, and neither will give you a very very

I really hope this is sarcasm. Are you really suggesting an AP in every room? An AP and a router are not the same thing, and neither will give you a very very low latency 1.5 GB wireless connection in my experience.

motoboi 5y ago
yeah. one wifi router (or ap if you want) per room (or on per two rooms). In a mesh network. Interconnected via wireless (not regular wifi). this is the way. Or you can plug a cable in your notebook and be happy.
Nextgrid 5y ago
What's wrong with one AP per room? That's exactly how it should be and indeed gives you bulletproof performance & reliability. Wi-Fi should be your home's "last mile" and everything before that should be wired. The over-gigabit speeds are hyperbole, but in my case I'm regularly seeing ~500Mbps both ways and very consistent latency with no sudden spikes. Most wireless problems are due to there being a single AP that's barely within reach causing tons of retransmissions which makes any real-time application (such as calls) unusable. It doesn't help that Wi-Fi signal strength meters are completely useless (maybe they should measure actual packet loss instead of RSSI which is only part of the picture) so end-users are unable to tell what's actually going on. Having APs always within line of sight of the client device solves all these problems.
- motoboi 5y ago
  > The over-gigabit speeds are hyperbole Certainly not. At home right now I'm getting 566Mbs, but my personal router is 2x2. At work, I get consistently 1.2gigabit on imac.
- Aeolun 5y ago
  Hmm, I’m seeing 500Mbps with my mesh network straight through 2 floors and a bunch of walls (everything is connected through cable to the meshed routers).
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    Speed is not the only factor. In fact, most people thought their Wi-Fi was fine because for non-real-time usages, TCP will conceal occasional dropouts. Your in-browser test might be showing 500Mbps while what's really happening is +500Mbps in between bursts of nothing. Applications such as iperf3 would be able to tell you more (as they can report in much quicker intervals, allowing you to see spikes that would be averaged out) but a quick test is to just ping your gateway and move around in any area you will potentially use your device (even your orientation matters; if your body is blocking the line of the signal it could have a disastrous effect on an already-weak connection) and see if you notice any spikes. If not: congrats, if yes: you have shit Wi-Fi that TCP has been successfully concealing but the illusion will break down when you use a real-time application where retransmissions can't work (because they would be too late).
    - Aeolun 5y ago
      Ah, the good part is probably that the connected machines are not going to move very much, nor is the AP (e.g. the connections between the AP and machines are all cables). I simply don’t have a cable pulled from the top floor (where my fiber enters the house) to the bottom floor where my office is. I’ve played realtime games over it, and haven’t had too much issues, so I guess it’s working well enough for my use case. It’s possible the actual speed is higher though, and the occasional bursts of nothing are still there (the link to my home is 2Gbit).
toast0 5y ago
> An AP and a router are not the same thing They certainly aren't, but most routers can run in AP mode and cost way less than a dedicated AP. One AP per room is pretty overkill, if you do that, you definitely want to turn the transmit power down to help clients roam.

motoboi 5y ago

yeah. one wifi router (or ap if you want) per room (or on per two rooms). In a mesh network. Interconnected via wireless (not regular wifi). this is the way. Or you can plug a cable in your notebook and be happy.

Nextgrid 5y ago

What's wrong with one AP per room? That's exactly how it should be and indeed gives you bulletproof performance & reliability. Wi-Fi should be your home's "last mile" and everything before that should be wired. The over-gigabit speeds are hyperbole, but in my case I'm regularly seeing ~500Mbps both ways and very consistent latency with no sudden spikes. Most wireless problems are due to there being a single AP that's barely within reach causing tons of retransmissions which makes any real-time application (such as calls) unusable. It doesn't help that Wi-Fi signal strength meters are completely useless (maybe they should measure actual packet loss instead of RSSI which is only part of the picture) so end-users are unable to tell what's actually going on. Having APs always within line of sight of the client device solves all these problems.

motoboi 5y ago
> The over-gigabit speeds are hyperbole Certainly not. At home right now I'm getting 566Mbs, but my personal router is 2x2. At work, I get consistently 1.2gigabit on imac.
Aeolun 5y ago
Hmm, I’m seeing 500Mbps with my mesh network straight through 2 floors and a bunch of walls (everything is connected through cable to the meshed routers).
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Speed is not the only factor. In fact, most people thought their Wi-Fi was fine because for non-real-time usages, TCP will conceal occasional dropouts. Your in-browser test might be showing 500Mbps while what's really happening is +500Mbps in between bursts of nothing. Applications such as iperf3 would be able to tell you more (as they can report in much quicker intervals, allowing you to see spikes that would be averaged out) but a quick test is to just ping your gateway and move around in any area you will potentially use your device (even your orientation matters; if your body is blocking the line of the signal it could have a disastrous effect on an already-weak connection) and see if you notice any spikes. If not: congrats, if yes: you have shit Wi-Fi that TCP has been successfully concealing but the illusion will break down when you use a real-time application where retransmissions can't work (because they would be too late).
  - Aeolun 5y ago
    Ah, the good part is probably that the connected machines are not going to move very much, nor is the AP (e.g. the connections between the AP and machines are all cables). I simply don’t have a cable pulled from the top floor (where my fiber enters the house) to the bottom floor where my office is. I’ve played realtime games over it, and haven’t had too much issues, so I guess it’s working well enough for my use case. It’s possible the actual speed is higher though, and the occasional bursts of nothing are still there (the link to my home is 2Gbit).

toast0 5y ago

> An AP and a router are not the same thing They certainly aren't, but most routers can run in AP mode and cost way less than a dedicated AP. One AP per room is pretty overkill, if you do that, you definitely want to turn the transmit power down to help clients roam.