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Go ahead... fork it. Then what happens? Will you travel the world tirelessly promoting free software, speaking at universities and other events for very little

Go ahead... fork it. Then what happens? Will you travel the world tirelessly promoting free software, speaking at universities and other events for very little money? Will you maintain a job board, mailing list, hardware database, software directory, year after year? Will you find lawyers to donate hundreds of hours to write and revise licenses? Will you hire lobbyists to fight software patents? Will you tirelessly fight the RIAA, day after day? When you've done all these things, sign me up.

chrisballinger 15y ago
Will you grow a beard that big?
alecco 15y ago
And never mind code. This basher is a complete nobody who seems to profit from open source more than contribute. It's not like the heads of several major FSF projects are banding a revolt. The sinister anti-Stallman/GNU sentiment on HN is reaching incredibly high levels. Luckily it's mostly nobodies like this big mouth bozo.
- drivingmenuts 15y ago
  I think Stallman has earned some negative sentiment with that statement. As he is so closely identified with the FSF, regardless of intent, it's inevitable that there would be spillover. It's not the mission, it's the man we have a problem with. Yes, he's done a lot for Free Software and software in general, most of it good. He has taught us a lot and probably learned a few things. The next thing he needs to learn is when to keep some of his thoughts to himself. His statement, in no way, advances the cause of Free Software.
- potatolicious 15y ago
  While you do have a point, I disagree strongly with the way you've expressed it. There is no need for name-calling and personal attacks on this board. Calling someone a "nobody" and a "big mouth bozo" is uncalled for.
  - alecco 15y ago
    He is extremely agressive and out of place, calling for a split on a major organization he didn't help in any meaningful way and feeding the hate [sentiments of a particular faction of users] against it. Also, > I’m really tired of having to make excuses for Stallman > when he goes off half-cocked like this, which is why I’m > no longer a FSF member.
    - uxp 15y ago
      > He is extremely agressive and out of place, calling for a split on a major organization he didn't help in any meaningful way He was a member, and while his member number (5030) isn't low enough to argue that he helped found the movement, he did explain that he has advocated on behalf of the FSF for quite some time. I too think his post was a step too far in the wrong direction, but saying that regular supporters of the FSF, long time contributors and everyday members don't "help in any meaningful way" to the FSF is a tad bit disingenuous.
viraptor 15y ago
There are other people who already do the same, he's not doing all the work by himself. He doesn't want to become the leader either, unless I missed something - he just sees a growing issue and organisation which he cannot identify with anymore. What's wrong with saying that he'd like to see a forked organisation with a leader that does not offend people very often and doesn't use someone's death to push his own ideas?

chrisballinger 15y ago

Will you grow a beard that big?

alecco 15y ago

And never mind code. This basher is a complete nobody who seems to profit from open source more than contribute. It's not like the heads of several major FSF projects are banding a revolt. The sinister anti-Stallman/GNU sentiment on HN is reaching incredibly high levels. Luckily it's mostly nobodies like this big mouth bozo.

drivingmenuts 15y ago
I think Stallman has earned some negative sentiment with that statement. As he is so closely identified with the FSF, regardless of intent, it's inevitable that there would be spillover. It's not the mission, it's the man we have a problem with. Yes, he's done a lot for Free Software and software in general, most of it good. He has taught us a lot and probably learned a few things. The next thing he needs to learn is when to keep some of his thoughts to himself. His statement, in no way, advances the cause of Free Software.
potatolicious 15y ago
While you do have a point, I disagree strongly with the way you've expressed it. There is no need for name-calling and personal attacks on this board. Calling someone a "nobody" and a "big mouth bozo" is uncalled for.
- alecco 15y ago
  He is extremely agressive and out of place, calling for a split on a major organization he didn't help in any meaningful way and feeding the hate [sentiments of a particular faction of users] against it. Also, > I’m really tired of having to make excuses for Stallman > when he goes off half-cocked like this, which is why I’m > no longer a FSF member.
  - uxp 15y ago
    > He is extremely agressive and out of place, calling for a split on a major organization he didn't help in any meaningful way He was a member, and while his member number (5030) isn't low enough to argue that he helped found the movement, he did explain that he has advocated on behalf of the FSF for quite some time. I too think his post was a step too far in the wrong direction, but saying that regular supporters of the FSF, long time contributors and everyday members don't "help in any meaningful way" to the FSF is a tad bit disingenuous.

viraptor 15y ago

There are other people who already do the same, he's not doing all the work by himself. He doesn't want to become the leader either, unless I missed something - he just sees a growing issue and organisation which he cannot identify with anymore. What's wrong with saying that he'd like to see a forked organisation with a leader that does not offend people very often and doesn't use someone's death to push his own ideas?