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When power is distributed, entrenched corruption can build a malaise. Democracies and autocracies have their own serious flaws, with the scale tipping only sli

When power is distributed, entrenched corruption can build a malaise. Democracies and autocracies have their own serious flaws, with the scale tipping only slightly in favour of democracies. The fundamental issue is himan nature. Power, Money, Pleasure are the drivers of human behaviour when it comes to administration. It is difficult to overcome human nature. We seem to be destined to be a mixed bag of cyclical governments, lumbering towards whatever our ultimate destiny is.

southerntofu 5y ago
> The fundamental issue is himan nature. Power, Money, Pleasure are the drivers of human behaviour when it comes to administration. I strongly disagree with this assessment, despite agreeing with your analysis of what's wrong in the current system. Power and money are products of a specific culture and not natural traits. Some human communities have existed without either, and some exist to this day. We need a strong cultural shift to abolish power and money in order to build a more fair society.
- imtringued 5y ago
  I agree, the democratization of land has still not been started despite the fact that hundreds or thousands of idealists have come up with good enough solutions that could be implemented today. If we followed GP's reasoning then democracy wouldn't be so widespread. But for me a land reform is just a matter of time. If you can maintain peace in a society long enough e.g. avoid wars over land, then at some point, people will have to figure out how to share land peacefully.
  - southerntofu 5y ago
    > If you can maintain peace in a society long enough e.g. avoid wars over land, then at some point, people will have to figure out how to share land peacefully. I agree with the rest of your comment, but i personally think you're wrong on this part. I do not believe peace leads to fairness, but rather that fairness leads to peace: how do you ensure peace when there's an abundance of resources and yet many people who struggle to survive?

southerntofu 5y ago

> The fundamental issue is himan nature. Power, Money, Pleasure are the drivers of human behaviour when it comes to administration. I strongly disagree with this assessment, despite agreeing with your analysis of what's wrong in the current system. Power and money are products of a specific culture and not natural traits. Some human communities have existed without either, and some exist to this day. We need a strong cultural shift to abolish power and money in order to build a more fair society.

imtringued 5y ago
I agree, the democratization of land has still not been started despite the fact that hundreds or thousands of idealists have come up with good enough solutions that could be implemented today. If we followed GP's reasoning then democracy wouldn't be so widespread. But for me a land reform is just a matter of time. If you can maintain peace in a society long enough e.g. avoid wars over land, then at some point, people will have to figure out how to share land peacefully.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > If you can maintain peace in a society long enough e.g. avoid wars over land, then at some point, people will have to figure out how to share land peacefully. I agree with the rest of your comment, but i personally think you're wrong on this part. I do not believe peace leads to fairness, but rather that fairness leads to peace: how do you ensure peace when there's an abundance of resources and yet many people who struggle to survive?