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Nah cos big corps just do what they want with no penalties unless they piss off enough people that the politicans feel like they need to make a point.. ...we're
by docflabby 5y ago
Nah cos big corps just do what they want with no penalties unless they piss off enough people that the politicans feel like they need to make a point.. ...we're well into gangster capitalism now
- gordon_freeman 5y agoor enough people or someone "influential" start to complain on social media and it gets enough traction.
- encryptluks2 5y ago
- cryo78 5y agoWhy do you believe that everything the government does is nefarious? If you really believe your government is after you and everyone else you can try to change it or leave the country. The one option that doesn’t change anything is posting unrelated comments on the web. How is the government informing people bad? Are schools bad? Universities?
- encryptluks2 5y ago
- nkozyra 5y ago> So you'd be okay if on Jan 6, Donald Trump used the emergency broadcast system The article you linked doesn't seem to say anything about using EBS. Trump used every platform available to spread the notion that the election was rigged, so I'm not following the whatabout here.
- encryptluks2 5y agoAs far as I'm aware it only came from his personal accounts.
- nkozyra 5y agoI don't think I said otherwise. Seems a pedantic distinction, though.
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- revscat 5y agoI echo the sibling comment on asking for an explanation as to why you feel that this is a bad thing. Are you American? If so, would you rather the government not make their case to influencers?
- encryptluks2 5y agoYes I would rather the government not use social media influencers to try to change public opinion on matters. They shouldn't be performing PsyOps on their own citizens.
- revscat 5y agoExcept that what they were doing is better described as outreach, and was done openly and in apparent good faith. Such outreach is especially important given the prevalence of FSB psyops — actual psyops — throughout the world.
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- Razengan 5y ago> The White House is “briefing” TikTok stars about [what to say about] the war in Ukraine If that’s not propaganda, what is?
- azinman2 5y agoYou say gangster capitalism. I also hear late stage capitalism and other such modifiers being thrown around a lot. When has power ever been limited? Certainly not in any communist society that’s existed so far, nor under feudalism, or even earlier capitalist societies to my knowledge (did the Roman’s not have this problem?).
- 1270018080 5y agoMaybe it's usually not limited throughout history, but our current particular flavor of collapse is late stage capitalism.
- azinman2 5y agoWhat is the collapse? What is late stage about it? What is the next stage? These words have always felt so meaningless to me...
- throwawaygh 5y agoThe original answers to "late?", "collapse?, and "what's next?" questions all require recalling that the term originated in Marxist circles. The "late" meant something like the type of capitalism that emerged out of ww2, characterized primarily by post-colonial global trade networks. That's quite a bit in the past for us, but "late" by the standards of an ideological tradition that started in the 1800s. Even still, of all your questions, this is the one that has changed meanings perhaps the least in the last 80 years or so. That's because a lot of the things that characterized "late stage capitalism" in the mid 20th century are still with us, and perhaps intensified. If it helps, think of "late stage" as "post-colonial + globalization + financialization". In contrast to the much more mixed political economies of Europe in the 1800s. Or, for an even more modern usage, you might read it as "jet-setting billionaires and the MBAs that manage their factories and open offices". That's the vibe it's supposed to give off, I think. The "collapse?" and "what's next?" questions sort of have standard Marxist answers (or, at least, standard delineated lines of debate within mid-century Marxism, from what I understand). Careful dispassionate reading the Communist Manifesto... like, the way you would read Plato or Hegel or whatever... can give you a general sense for why "collapse" plays an important role in Marxist theories and what Marxists generally suspect is "next". (Namely, alienation of workers and a resulting violent revolution of the working class against folks who own/control capital.) nb, I'm not really sure that most people using the term now have much -- if any -- background in Marxist economics/philosophy. I think for the average user, these terms function roughly the same way as "critical race theory" does on the social right. If that makes sense. So, the "late" retains real descriptive meaning relative to 1800s/early 1900s capitalism, but the "collapse" and "what's next?" have sort of drifted from their original answers and probably play a more rhetorical than literal role these days. Like CRT. No one knows what they mean. They are shibboleths for "change is needed and inevitable", with no specifics for what or how. Hope that helps.
- guntars 5y agoThe fact that not being able to unsubscribe from marketing emails counts as gangster capitalism for you.. well.. that must mean things are pretty good.
- hoppyhoppy2 5y agoit's to opt out of having your purchase history sold, not to opt out of receiving marketing emails. >U.S. cardholders may opt out of Visa using their card transaction data for VAS, a suite of aggregated data products in the US.
- umeshunni 5y agoThis isn't Reddit
- micromacrofoot 5y agoThis isn't Instagram either, can you clarify what this is supposed to mean?
- xeromal 5y agoHackernews discourse is supposed to at least take some thought when making a comment. >ah cos big corps just do what they want with no penalties unless they piss off enough people that the politicans feel like they need to make a point.. ...we're well into gangster capitalism now This is just a lazy comment.
- micromacrofoot 5y agoah ok, so reddit is known for lazy comments?
- docflabby 5y agoI can make the point more articulated. Quite simply everytime one of these stories comes up big corp breaks the law...is anyone going to do anything about it...The answer is pretty much always no not even fines... Even something where a CEO admits intentionally breaking the law not much has happened. No talk of jail time? https://www.ft.com/content/3fbc5918-ad04-4003-8e09-3df12d7dcd40 https://www.ft.com/content/3fbc5918-ad04-4003-8e09-3df12d7dc... I think maybe I'm jaded with 'it's illegal'. If the law is not enforced it doesn't matter.
- deathanatos 5y agoThis might not be Reddit, and the parent's point might be crudely made, but watch the fines companies are awarded, and put it in terms of revenue, and then scale it to /$60k USD, to put it terms of how "big" of a fine it would be, from an average person's pocket; you'll find that many of these fines are in the sub-dollar range, which to me, makes it completely fair to dismiss them as any sort of real penalty.