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What I am saying the medical terminology is the problem. > if the intervention is removed then the condition will return. If the interventions preventing covi

What I am saying the medical terminology is the problem. > if the intervention is removed then the condition will return. If the interventions preventing covid are removed the condition will return. Do you get that? On cancer; we all have malignant cells, all the time. everyone right now has cancer cells in their body. https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery-do-we-all-have-potentially-cancerous-cells-in-our-bodies/ https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery... Not smoking is an intervention against getting "too much" cancer. > While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return Low carb diets do not cure diabetes. They treats diabetes. The cure to diabetes (type 2) is not engaging in a lifestyle that causes diabetes, which probably results from causing a zinc deficiency. You can avoid diabetes like you can avoid COVID.

nradov 5y ago
I don't understand your point. Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19. Everyone can expect to get infected with SARS-CoV-2 (probably multiple times) but only a subset of those infections will cause clinically significant COVID-19 symptoms. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 Good lifestyle choices can usually prevent type-2 diabetes, but prevention is different from curing an existing condition. That's just medical reality and changing terminology wouldn't impact that. The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven, and can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes. This would be a good area for further research.
- SpodGaju 5y ago
  > The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven Just be clear, if the hypothesis was proven it would not be a hypothesis anymore, but would be a theory. > can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes You cannot say it is not possible when there is so much evidence that it is possible. Tell me how many people you know diagnosed with diabetes have their doctor get their serum and urinary zinc tested? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0002934383912056 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/000293... "Twenty-five percent of these patients had depressed serum zinc concentrations, and all demonstrated hyperzincurla." 100% had high urinary zinc. 100%. This point to a functional deficiency of zinc. 25% had a true deficiency. It might be that the levels of zinc that we have deemed adequate are not adequate for all people. and this is a great short peice: https://www.proquest.com/openview/4aaebeab5e4ac98c2d1c3ced495752a6/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=47715 https://www.proquest.com/openview/4aaebeab5e4ac98c2d1c3ced49... The time for research is over, it is time to include serum and urinary zinc testing part of the standard of care for physicians. And who will pay for this research on a low cost option to reverse diabetes when so much money is to be made on new medications> > Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19. Same could be said for cancer and diabetes. You are probably unknowingly intervening against disease. As far as COVID, you will note the obese are more likely to suffer worse outcomes. So for whatever reason someone watches their weight, even vanity, they are helping prevent themselves from COVID. > prevention is different from curing an existing condition My mother prevented her self from having the symptoms of having the symptoms of diabetes occur again by changing her diet. How is that different from curing it? Listen, what is a disease but a collection of symptoms? If I have no symptoms, where is the disease? If I had diabetes, but was never diagnosed, and I treated myself with a diet to make it go away, would a doctor diagnose diabetes when my blood sugar was normal? Funny, it sounds like you are saying doctors causes permanent diseases?

nradov 5y ago

I don't understand your point. Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19. Everyone can expect to get infected with SARS-CoV-2 (probably multiple times) but only a subset of those infections will cause clinically significant COVID-19 symptoms. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 Good lifestyle choices can usually prevent type-2 diabetes, but prevention is different from curing an existing condition. That's just medical reality and changing terminology wouldn't impact that. The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven, and can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes. This would be a good area for further research.

SpodGaju 5y ago
> The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven Just be clear, if the hypothesis was proven it would not be a hypothesis anymore, but would be a theory. > can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes You cannot say it is not possible when there is so much evidence that it is possible. Tell me how many people you know diagnosed with diabetes have their doctor get their serum and urinary zinc tested? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0002934383912056 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/000293... "Twenty-five percent of these patients had depressed serum zinc concentrations, and all demonstrated hyperzincurla." 100% had high urinary zinc. 100%. This point to a functional deficiency of zinc. 25% had a true deficiency. It might be that the levels of zinc that we have deemed adequate are not adequate for all people. and this is a great short peice: https://www.proquest.com/openview/4aaebeab5e4ac98c2d1c3ced495752a6/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=47715 https://www.proquest.com/openview/4aaebeab5e4ac98c2d1c3ced49... The time for research is over, it is time to include serum and urinary zinc testing part of the standard of care for physicians. And who will pay for this research on a low cost option to reverse diabetes when so much money is to be made on new medications> > Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19. Same could be said for cancer and diabetes. You are probably unknowingly intervening against disease. As far as COVID, you will note the obese are more likely to suffer worse outcomes. So for whatever reason someone watches their weight, even vanity, they are helping prevent themselves from COVID. > prevention is different from curing an existing condition My mother prevented her self from having the symptoms of having the symptoms of diabetes occur again by changing her diet. How is that different from curing it? Listen, what is a disease but a collection of symptoms? If I have no symptoms, where is the disease? If I had diabetes, but was never diagnosed, and I treated myself with a diet to make it go away, would a doctor diagnose diabetes when my blood sugar was normal? Funny, it sounds like you are saying doctors causes permanent diseases?