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IntelliJ Idea for sure.

by omgmajk 5y ago

sgt 5y ago
Also using IntellJ. But how is the landscape with the other IDE's these days - is NetBeans keeping up?
- the-alchemist 5y ago
  Netbeans died an unfortunate death once it moved to the Apache foundation and Sun/Oracle funding died out. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F01fchg https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... Unfortunate, because it had (has?) a great Swing and UML editor, built-in for free. Maybe I'm wrong and it's awesome now, but I haven't used it for a while in favor of Eclipse, and now, IntelliJ. This graph illustrates the IDE popularity between Intellij and Netbeans. IntelliJ became preferred over Netbeans about mid 2014. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=intellij,netbeans https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=i...
  - adalu 5y ago
    Netbeans was really great, maybe still is, but the noise jetbrains made with the astroturfing advertizing has jetbrains dominating everything. IMHO Netbeans was ahead of idea in many ways. But since they didn't buy commenteers to hype their product it's pretty much nowhere, at least I don't know anyone who uses it.
    - efdee 5y ago
      I'm someone who has regularly recommends Jetbrains software (including IntelliJ and Resharper) to others in comments, and now I'm wondering if they forgot to send me my check.
      - thfuran 5y ago
        I think I'm regarded as something of an intellij zealot at work but now a bunch of people have switched. Hopefully I'll receive my check soon.
      - omgmajk 5y ago
        I too lack a check.
    - sgt 5y ago
      I know developers who still use it, but they refuse to give IntelliJ a chance.
watwut 5y ago
I am using it now because the team is using it, but cant figure out in which way it is supposed to be better then Eclipse. It looks somehow better, but it seems strictly inferior in terms of what it does for me.
- self_awareness 5y ago
  And what are the functions that you use that work better in Eclipse?
  - teknopaul 5y ago
    Eclipse immediately tells you what is broken when you change an api. IntelliJ does not. You can't stop IntelliJ from saving work. I like to kick of a build, and work on some new stuff while it's going on without saving until the build completes. That workflow is impossible in IntelliJ. You have to down tools, for a long build with lots of tests that can make IntelliJ slower over all. IntelliJ generally more responsive for most work, but that's because it's not using Java's type system to find errors as you work, errors are deferred, which often means they take longer over all to fix.
    - ta988 5y ago
      It just takes two check boxes to uncheck to disable that in IntelliJ. I agree it is disturbing that it is a default at first. But it is at least configurable.
      - teknopaul 5y ago
        Which version? It wasn't possible last time I checked and Jetbrains had close-no-fix on various related bug reports.
        ta988 5y ago
        Last EAP version but it was there at least since last year.

IntelliJ Idea for sure.

sgt 5y ago

Also using IntellJ. But how is the landscape with the other IDE's these days - is NetBeans keeping up?

the-alchemist 5y ago
Netbeans died an unfortunate death once it moved to the Apache foundation and Sun/Oracle funding died out. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F01fchg https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... Unfortunate, because it had (has?) a great Swing and UML editor, built-in for free. Maybe I'm wrong and it's awesome now, but I haven't used it for a while in favor of Eclipse, and now, IntelliJ. This graph illustrates the IDE popularity between Intellij and Netbeans. IntelliJ became preferred over Netbeans about mid 2014. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=intellij,netbeans https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=i...
- adalu 5y ago
  Netbeans was really great, maybe still is, but the noise jetbrains made with the astroturfing advertizing has jetbrains dominating everything. IMHO Netbeans was ahead of idea in many ways. But since they didn't buy commenteers to hype their product it's pretty much nowhere, at least I don't know anyone who uses it.
  - efdee 5y ago
    I'm someone who has regularly recommends Jetbrains software (including IntelliJ and Resharper) to others in comments, and now I'm wondering if they forgot to send me my check.
    - thfuran 5y ago
      I think I'm regarded as something of an intellij zealot at work but now a bunch of people have switched. Hopefully I'll receive my check soon.
    - omgmajk 5y ago
      I too lack a check.
  - sgt 5y ago
    I know developers who still use it, but they refuse to give IntelliJ a chance.

watwut 5y ago

I am using it now because the team is using it, but cant figure out in which way it is supposed to be better then Eclipse. It looks somehow better, but it seems strictly inferior in terms of what it does for me.

self_awareness 5y ago
And what are the functions that you use that work better in Eclipse?
- teknopaul 5y ago
  Eclipse immediately tells you what is broken when you change an api. IntelliJ does not. You can't stop IntelliJ from saving work. I like to kick of a build, and work on some new stuff while it's going on without saving until the build completes. That workflow is impossible in IntelliJ. You have to down tools, for a long build with lots of tests that can make IntelliJ slower over all. IntelliJ generally more responsive for most work, but that's because it's not using Java's type system to find errors as you work, errors are deferred, which often means they take longer over all to fix.
  - ta988 5y ago
    It just takes two check boxes to uncheck to disable that in IntelliJ. I agree it is disturbing that it is a default at first. But it is at least configurable.
    - teknopaul 5y ago
      Which version? It wasn't possible last time I checked and Jetbrains had close-no-fix on various related bug reports.
      - ta988 5y ago
        Last EAP version but it was there at least since last year.