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It’s so interesting that type 2 diabetes is curable with diet. Type 1 is incurable. My point is that the psychology of eating is so strong that people would r

It’s so interesting that type 2 diabetes is curable with diet. Type 1 is incurable. My point is that the psychology of eating is so strong that people would rather take a drug that pass on birth defects to the future than change eating habits. And I’m a person coming from struggling with just those habits. I think if someone could come up with a treatment to adjust mindsets - it would change healthcare forever and end the need for drugs like Metaform.

macilacilove 5y ago
Type 2 diabetes is not curable with diet. Some (but not all) cases of type 2 can be _prevented_ by proper diet (i.e. avoiding obesity). There is no known diet that cures any type of existing diabetes.
- eric4smith 5y ago
  The thing is, Type 2 is not even a disease. Its just an imbalance of glucose. So there is really nothing to cure, its just about bringing back your blood glucose levels in balance so that the liver and pancreas can begin to function correctly again. Of course there could be irreversible damage to those organs and that would be really bad (Several relatives who died of this). But you are partly right. There can be remission and back to normal with lifestyle changes and Type 2. Substantial studies and clinical evidence shows this.
  - nradov 5y ago
    Type-2 diabetes is characterized more by insulin resistance than by an imbalance of glucose. And glucose isn't really something you "balance" in relation to another substance anyway. In order to be metabolically healthy you have to keep glucose levels in the appropriate range, and that will generally prevent the onset of insulin resistance.
- nradov 5y ago
  Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission with diet for many patients. Virta Health has peer-reviewed research supporting this approach. https://www.virtahealth.com/resource-type/research https://www.virtahealth.com/resource-type/research
  - SpodGaju 5y ago
    > Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission This is such a weird thing to say. If it never comes back you cured it. It's like saying a cold or cancer cannot be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission. It likely takes the agency away from people and apologizes for the failures of the medical industry.
    - nradov 5y ago
      I think your might not understand the medical terminology. There is a distinct difference between curing an acute infectious disease versus putting a chronic condition into remission. In the majority of cases, cancer can't be cured either; it usually isn't possible to eliminate 100% of malignant cells so if the patient survives long enough then the same cancer will eventually return. While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return. This is not a failure of the medical industry and no apology is needed.
      - SpodGaju 5y ago
        What I am saying the medical terminology is the problem. > if the intervention is removed then the condition will return. If the interventions preventing covid are removed the condition will return. Do you get that? On cancer; we all have malignant cells, all the time. everyone right now has cancer cells in their body. https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery-do-we-all-have-potentially-cancerous-cells-in-our-bodies/ https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery... Not smoking is an intervention against getting "too much" cancer. > While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return Low carb diets do not cure diabetes. They treats diabetes. The cure to diabetes (type 2) is not engaging in a lifestyle that causes diabetes, which probably results from causing a zinc deficiency. You can avoid diabetes like you can avoid COVID.
- SpodGaju 5y ago
  Hmmm. My mother was able to stop taking insulin for her type 2 by changing her diet after doctors told her she would need insulin for the rest of her life. Are you saying it was all in her head? I have no idea why people keep saying this.
  - zdiscov 5y ago
    Please remember that this changes with age, diet and activity levels. If you can fine tune the diet and monitor glucose levels using CGM/AGM's to precise levels over each and every minute throughout the day/week/years., then it is pretty well possible to get a lot more mileage with the diet alone. Glucose spikes are easy to miss unless monitored this way and could easily be more damaging.
lancesells 5y ago
Don't forget a lot of food is engineered and marketed to create those habits in the first place. In the end it falls on the person but I can see it being extremely difficult if you're growing up in the wrong environment with a shitty diet and a particular brain.
dghughes 5y ago
Curable in all cases or just early after a type II diagnosis? I think once you lose it that's it. The pancreas insulin output is low that's type II diabetes. From my understanding the pancreas, an organ, is damaged and can't regenerate like all organs except the liver (sort of). Like a rotten tooth can't regrow an organ once damaged there's no repair. Pancreatitis is what I'd see as a reversible situation since it's inflammation of the pancreas but not damaged yet.
stuckinhell 5y ago
I both agree and disagree with you. Asking the average human to resist the efforts of multi-billion dollar companies using powerful psychological science to get people to buy their junk food seems a lot to ask. Coca-cola successfully got entire nations to change from their traditional drinks to soda pop using propaganda. I think we need to deal with the American Oligarchs/Megacorps in a very serious manner and very soon.

macilacilove 5y ago

Type 2 diabetes is not curable with diet. Some (but not all) cases of type 2 can be _prevented_ by proper diet (i.e. avoiding obesity). There is no known diet that cures any type of existing diabetes.

eric4smith 5y ago
The thing is, Type 2 is not even a disease. Its just an imbalance of glucose. So there is really nothing to cure, its just about bringing back your blood glucose levels in balance so that the liver and pancreas can begin to function correctly again. Of course there could be irreversible damage to those organs and that would be really bad (Several relatives who died of this). But you are partly right. There can be remission and back to normal with lifestyle changes and Type 2. Substantial studies and clinical evidence shows this.
- nradov 5y ago
  Type-2 diabetes is characterized more by insulin resistance than by an imbalance of glucose. And glucose isn't really something you "balance" in relation to another substance anyway. In order to be metabolically healthy you have to keep glucose levels in the appropriate range, and that will generally prevent the onset of insulin resistance.
nradov 5y ago
Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission with diet for many patients. Virta Health has peer-reviewed research supporting this approach. https://www.virtahealth.com/resource-type/research https://www.virtahealth.com/resource-type/research
- SpodGaju 5y ago
  > Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission This is such a weird thing to say. If it never comes back you cured it. It's like saying a cold or cancer cannot be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission. It likely takes the agency away from people and apologizes for the failures of the medical industry.
  - nradov 5y ago
    I think your might not understand the medical terminology. There is a distinct difference between curing an acute infectious disease versus putting a chronic condition into remission. In the majority of cases, cancer can't be cured either; it usually isn't possible to eliminate 100% of malignant cells so if the patient survives long enough then the same cancer will eventually return. While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return. This is not a failure of the medical industry and no apology is needed.
    - SpodGaju 5y ago
      What I am saying the medical terminology is the problem. > if the intervention is removed then the condition will return. If the interventions preventing covid are removed the condition will return. Do you get that? On cancer; we all have malignant cells, all the time. everyone right now has cancer cells in their body. https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery-do-we-all-have-potentially-cancerous-cells-in-our-bodies/ https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery... Not smoking is an intervention against getting "too much" cancer. > While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return Low carb diets do not cure diabetes. They treats diabetes. The cure to diabetes (type 2) is not engaging in a lifestyle that causes diabetes, which probably results from causing a zinc deficiency. You can avoid diabetes like you can avoid COVID.
SpodGaju 5y ago
Hmmm. My mother was able to stop taking insulin for her type 2 by changing her diet after doctors told her she would need insulin for the rest of her life. Are you saying it was all in her head? I have no idea why people keep saying this.
- zdiscov 5y ago
  Please remember that this changes with age, diet and activity levels. If you can fine tune the diet and monitor glucose levels using CGM/AGM's to precise levels over each and every minute throughout the day/week/years., then it is pretty well possible to get a lot more mileage with the diet alone. Glucose spikes are easy to miss unless monitored this way and could easily be more damaging.

lancesells 5y ago

Don't forget a lot of food is engineered and marketed to create those habits in the first place. In the end it falls on the person but I can see it being extremely difficult if you're growing up in the wrong environment with a shitty diet and a particular brain.

dghughes 5y ago

Curable in all cases or just early after a type II diagnosis? I think once you lose it that's it. The pancreas insulin output is low that's type II diabetes. From my understanding the pancreas, an organ, is damaged and can't regenerate like all organs except the liver (sort of). Like a rotten tooth can't regrow an organ once damaged there's no repair. Pancreatitis is what I'd see as a reversible situation since it's inflammation of the pancreas but not damaged yet.

stuckinhell 5y ago

I both agree and disagree with you. Asking the average human to resist the efforts of multi-billion dollar companies using powerful psychological science to get people to buy their junk food seems a lot to ask. Coca-cola successfully got entire nations to change from their traditional drinks to soda pop using propaganda. I think we need to deal with the American Oligarchs/Megacorps in a very serious manner and very soon.