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I love technology as much as anyone, but at the end of the day we're humans, and experience in being a human comes with time. I think detracting from the wisdom

I love technology as much as anyone, but at the end of the day we're humans, and experience in being a human comes with time. I think detracting from the wisdom of old men because they can't post memes on their smartphone is not the best thing we could do as a society.

necheffa 5y ago
Experience comes from doing, not time. Just because someone is old doesn't mean they are experienced. It just means there is a greater chance they are experienced.
- KineticLensman 5y ago
  Also, 'science advances one funeral at a time'
- ThalesX 5y ago
  That chance also increases with them being in politics. That chance also increases when they are part of a committee. That chance also increases when the ‘adversaries’ are tech-moguls trying to push for their version of utopia. Ultimately, I’m not sure we can realistically accuse most political dinosaurs of just passing time for a couple of decades.
  - seniorivn 5y ago
    you expect them to be experienced in things that are your priority, but instead they are experienced in things that are their priorities, like corruption, political games to keep being in their comfy seats etc.
    - ThalesX 5y ago
      I don't expect them to be experienced in anything remotely related to my current life and work, instead I believe that corruption, political games, comfy seats, backdeals are how things are done today at a human level. Is it good? I don't think so. Can we just uplift this with technology and call it a day? I also don't think so.
chockchocschoir 5y ago
I'm not saying because they are "old and experienced" they don't have any value nor wisdom. I'm simply saying that don't trust their opinion on things they don't understand. And if they don't understand something, I expect them to bring themselves up to speed on that thing, or bring in others who do understand that thing. I'm not expecting them to ignore that thing simply because they don't understand it, or worse, pretend like they do understand it when it's clear they don't.
- ThalesX 5y ago
  They understand something which most of us have no grasp on and small chances of getting up-to-speed about, which is governing masses of people, with the realities of the situation. How do you even know they don’t understand, misunderstand, don’t have conflicting agendas or just don’t like an idea? It’s easy to assume, especially when one has never stepped in the backstage of politics.
  - krageon 5y ago
    > It’s easy to assume, especially when one has never stepped in the backstage of politics. You were making a good point until you ended up here. The backstage of politics is essentially bribery in it's many legal and not so legal forms.
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    - ThalesX 5y ago
      I'm sorry, I'm not making any pro statement for backstage of politics. I'm saying that people who are not exposed to this, could think that they could run a better society, but ultimately they wouldn't. Coming in with high technological hopes of societal improvements while closing a blind eye to how it's actually done at this point will never work, or so I feel. I would like a bit more context into how you feel my mentioning of backstage of politics, which is indeed how the world is run today, is detrimental to my point that old men have experience in exactly this.

necheffa 5y ago

Experience comes from doing, not time. Just because someone is old doesn't mean they are experienced. It just means there is a greater chance they are experienced.

KineticLensman 5y ago
Also, 'science advances one funeral at a time'
ThalesX 5y ago
That chance also increases with them being in politics. That chance also increases when they are part of a committee. That chance also increases when the ‘adversaries’ are tech-moguls trying to push for their version of utopia. Ultimately, I’m not sure we can realistically accuse most political dinosaurs of just passing time for a couple of decades.
- seniorivn 5y ago
  you expect them to be experienced in things that are your priority, but instead they are experienced in things that are their priorities, like corruption, political games to keep being in their comfy seats etc.
  - ThalesX 5y ago
    I don't expect them to be experienced in anything remotely related to my current life and work, instead I believe that corruption, political games, comfy seats, backdeals are how things are done today at a human level. Is it good? I don't think so. Can we just uplift this with technology and call it a day? I also don't think so.

chockchocschoir 5y ago

I'm not saying because they are "old and experienced" they don't have any value nor wisdom. I'm simply saying that don't trust their opinion on things they don't understand. And if they don't understand something, I expect them to bring themselves up to speed on that thing, or bring in others who do understand that thing. I'm not expecting them to ignore that thing simply because they don't understand it, or worse, pretend like they do understand it when it's clear they don't.

ThalesX 5y ago
They understand something which most of us have no grasp on and small chances of getting up-to-speed about, which is governing masses of people, with the realities of the situation. How do you even know they don’t understand, misunderstand, don’t have conflicting agendas or just don’t like an idea? It’s easy to assume, especially when one has never stepped in the backstage of politics.
- krageon 5y ago
  > It’s easy to assume, especially when one has never stepped in the backstage of politics. You were making a good point until you ended up here. The backstage of politics is essentially bribery in it's many legal and not so legal forms.
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  - ThalesX 5y ago
    I'm sorry, I'm not making any pro statement for backstage of politics. I'm saying that people who are not exposed to this, could think that they could run a better society, but ultimately they wouldn't. Coming in with high technological hopes of societal improvements while closing a blind eye to how it's actually done at this point will never work, or so I feel. I would like a bit more context into how you feel my mentioning of backstage of politics, which is indeed how the world is run today, is detrimental to my point that old men have experience in exactly this.