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This type of stuff will eventually lead us to a vegan world. It's hard to see it now but future generations will find it harder to slaughter millions of animals
by Flankk 5y ago
This type of stuff will eventually lead us to a vegan world. It's hard to see it now but future generations will find it harder to slaughter millions of animals when perfect meat substitutes are available. It will be similar to the slow transition from fossil fuels.
- krageon 5y agoChickens lay eggs. It is a fact of their life, there is nothing exploitative or bad about it (in principle, I will say that a lot of farms are garbage). "solving" egg whites is the furthest from the ideal that you are espousing that you could possibly get. What needs to be solved properly is dairy, specifically cheese. It is a giant range of foods and none of the current vegan offerings come even close to covering it.
- frrxcccfff 5y ago
- rsynnott 5y agoPer the article, cow-free cow's milk is beginning to become a thing. There are, incidentally, non-animal-welfare-related reasons that this stuff is interesting. In particular, there's the potential to considerably reduce the CO2 cost of producing egg whites this way, and the product could reasonably be expected to be safer.
- krageon 5y agoThose things are all very positive, it's true. I hadn't looked at it that way.
- sweetheart 5y ago> there is nothing exploitative or bad about it Have you seen what goes into industrial egg operations? How on Earth could you not call it exploitative or bad?
- krageon 5y agoYou are purposefully ignoring what my comment says and it is not only insulting, it is also boring.
- sweetheart 5y agoI directly quoted your comment, how is that purposefully ignoring it? You said other things, too, sure, but I was addressing the first part.
- onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago> Have you seen what goes into industrial egg operations? How on Earth could you not call it exploitative or bad? White Leghorns, New Hampshire Reds, and Barred Plymouth Rocks (the common egg-laying chickens in industrial farms) are not exactly existential. Farming grasshoppers and maggots is at one end of the spectrum, with Orcas at Sea World on the other end. Egg farming is somewhere in between.
- sweetheart 5y agoIm not sure what point you’re trying to make.
- pmoriarty 5y agoA big reason for many people still eating meat is that they don't know about what goes on in fatory farming and slaughterhouses... and they don't want to know.
- AnonC 5y ago> Chickens lay eggs. It is a fact of their life, there is nothing exploitative or bad about it It seems like you don’t know much about the poultry industry in general. Your statement is like saying — to use an analogy — that human women give birth to human children as a fact of life, and that it’s ok to force them to give birth consecutively for decades without a break. Left to themselves, chickens would probably lay about 25 eggs in a whole year. In the industry, they’re forced to lay more than 300 eggs a year. There is simply no way that this is not constant physical abuse (even if you ignore battery cages, starvation, light exposure, etc.).
- krageon 5y agoYou are purposefully ignoring what my comment says and it is not only insulting, it is also boring.
- traviswt 5y agoYou don’t slaughter a chicken to get its eggs. On a more serious note, why do ethical vegan proponents feel it is better for an animal to never live at all? To be devoid of purpose due to lack of existence?
- hnrj95 5y agoi’m not vegan, but the egg industry is probably one of the most atrocious concerning animal welfare iiuc. they do slaughter chicks in droves—just not for meat
- traviswt 5y agoAnimal welfare should not focus on if an animal dies if the alternative is for it to never live at all. Any amount of time, even a day after hatching, is greater than zero. Instead we should focus on quality of life and how humane the death is.
- frrxcccfff 5y ago[flagged]
- macintux 5y agoHypothetically if slavery resulted in more children, we should never have abolished it?
- hunterb123 5y ago1. Freed slaves became independent. They aren't chickens which wouldn't survive in a non domesticated environment. 2. Farming chickens and enslaving people is not even remotely on the same level.
- spaetzleesser 5y ago“They aren't chickens which wouldn't survive in a non domesticated environment.” You would be very surprised how quickly animals can adapt to a new environment. There are plenty of examples of domesticated animals being released into the wild and doing just fine.
- InsaneOstrich 5y agoThis kind of research seems promising because it's not even a substitute, it claims to be the exact same product, only derived from a different source. A lot of people don't want weird plant based alternatives to animal products because of the taste or nutritional content.