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Why are new buildings preferred? In the US people like older houses, even when they are poorly built.

seanmcdirmid 5y ago
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fomine3 5y ago
We like newer buildings as same as newer cars. It's comfortable overall. Why you like older buildings ?
- galangalalgol 5y ago
  Many here like to keep old cars too, you regularly see cars from the 1950s still driving. Older houses like older cars have been tested by survivor bias. Older things stand out a bit too, so it is a way to be individualistic. A way to connect to the past too. Even if it wasn't your ancestors that built a house, learning about the people that did, and living where they lived and died is an interesting experience. In many cases the workmanship is something that could not be repeated given modern labor rates. So lots of little reasons. Also our modern homes don't vary as much as yours, they all look roughly similar. So an old house might be selected just to avoid the current popular design.
- llampx 5y ago
  Probably a bit of "they don't make them like they used to."
  - galangalalgol 5y ago
    There is a bit of that at least for me, but it is a mixed bag. Yes, pier and beam can handle shifting soil better than the modern foundations we see around my area, but most everything from an insulation standpoint is extremely inferior to modern construction. Also, airflow in houses retrofitted for central air conditioning is suboptimal. The woodworking made from hand tools is something we will never see again in middle class homes though. On the whole, I'd give the nod to a modern home both for maintainability and efficiency, with the notable exception of foundations. If I lived somewhere basements were normal in new builds, even that might swing towards a new build. But old houses are still just more interesting, the way a 60s roadster is more interesting than a modern one, despite being worse in every way functionally.
    - fomine3 5y ago
      Thanks for sharing your thought. There's old car fans but not much old house fans. For Japan, the new earthquake resistance standards was introduced in 1981 so not all prior houses are guaranteed to safe. Old houses could be interesting but almost all 1981 house isn't interesting but just obsoleted. Insulation is also a huge factor.
      - llampx 5y ago
        One datapoint: In Germany, Altbau (old construction) apartments are quite sought after especially in cities. Whether that's because of their location (older apartments tending to be in historical areas) or their construction quality or just fashion, I don't know.
      - galangalalgol 5y ago
        Houses from 1981 aren't very interesting here either. Right now people seem to like 1960s houses or 1920s and older.

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fomine3 5y ago

We like newer buildings as same as newer cars. It's comfortable overall. Why you like older buildings ?

galangalalgol 5y ago
Many here like to keep old cars too, you regularly see cars from the 1950s still driving. Older houses like older cars have been tested by survivor bias. Older things stand out a bit too, so it is a way to be individualistic. A way to connect to the past too. Even if it wasn't your ancestors that built a house, learning about the people that did, and living where they lived and died is an interesting experience. In many cases the workmanship is something that could not be repeated given modern labor rates. So lots of little reasons. Also our modern homes don't vary as much as yours, they all look roughly similar. So an old house might be selected just to avoid the current popular design.
llampx 5y ago
Probably a bit of "they don't make them like they used to."
- galangalalgol 5y ago
  There is a bit of that at least for me, but it is a mixed bag. Yes, pier and beam can handle shifting soil better than the modern foundations we see around my area, but most everything from an insulation standpoint is extremely inferior to modern construction. Also, airflow in houses retrofitted for central air conditioning is suboptimal. The woodworking made from hand tools is something we will never see again in middle class homes though. On the whole, I'd give the nod to a modern home both for maintainability and efficiency, with the notable exception of foundations. If I lived somewhere basements were normal in new builds, even that might swing towards a new build. But old houses are still just more interesting, the way a 60s roadster is more interesting than a modern one, despite being worse in every way functionally.
  - fomine3 5y ago
    Thanks for sharing your thought. There's old car fans but not much old house fans. For Japan, the new earthquake resistance standards was introduced in 1981 so not all prior houses are guaranteed to safe. Old houses could be interesting but almost all 1981 house isn't interesting but just obsoleted. Insulation is also a huge factor.
    - llampx 5y ago
      One datapoint: In Germany, Altbau (old construction) apartments are quite sought after especially in cities. Whether that's because of their location (older apartments tending to be in historical areas) or their construction quality or just fashion, I don't know.
    - galangalalgol 5y ago
      Houses from 1981 aren't very interesting here either. Right now people seem to like 1960s houses or 1920s and older.