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Is LSD still easy to source? I had heard that what you buy on the streets is never real LSD.

wombat-man 5y ago
It's been a little while but as of a few years ago it's certainly still widely available. It's easy to get a test kit if you'd like to verify what you have.
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  The problem is the testing kits only test for known substances. The substance you've been sold could also contain some new designer drug which no test will recognize.
  - wombat-man 5y ago
    Yeah that's the idea of the test kit. It will change to a specific color if you have LSD. If you have some other designer drug it would either not react, or change to a different color depending on the test.
    - pmoriarty 5y ago
      What I'm talking about is there's both LSD and some novel designer drug in the sample. In that case the test would show the presence of LSD, but maybe not anything else (despite there being some designer drug there as well).
      - wombat-man 5y ago
        That's true. I haven't heard of people cutting LSD with other research chemicals. I'm not an expert, but from what I've gathered reading around is that other drugs that are effective at that dosage are sometimes easier to get ahold of but not necessarily cheaper. It's not like cocaine where it's very lucrative to cut the drug with fillers. Coke, after all, is sold by weight while LSD is at such small amounts I'm not sure what cutting it would really gain you. I feel like they're more likely to give you something under dosed and call it a day. I think it is possible to mail in a dose to a lab that can analyze it on a molecular level. Personally, I think if you can prove the existence of LSD, I would feel reasonably confident that that's the only active ingredient. But you're right, there's no way to know for sure. In any case, one should be careful with these types of things.
88840-8855 5y ago
You can buy pre-LSD fully legally and easily here in Germany. LSD is illegal, but the pre stage of LSD is not. There is a shop in Berlin (online + retail). you just go there and buy your LSD. the price is fair and the quality is very high as it is being produced in a controlled lab.
- azinman2 5y ago
  How do you go from the pre stage to final stage?
  - 88840-8855 5y ago
    It happens in your body. Check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1V-LSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1V-LSD
    - azinman2 5y ago
      Unless I’m missing something, it doesn’t talk about how it occurs in your body. It seems more like an analog?
      - gpcr1949 5y ago
        This is a pro-drug, the valeroyl indole amide rapidly gets hydrolyzed to LSD in the body. Same thing applies for ALD-52,1P,1B,1cP-LSD. This also means that at some point, these will be made illegal or will fall under blanket "analog" legislation.
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stevehiehn 5y ago
It is very easy to source at North American music festivals. Particularly EDM-ish festivals. In fact its very common for people just offer to sell it to you unprompted. (I suspect Europe is similar but I have not really attended festivals there).
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  "its very common for people just offer to sell it to you unprompted" But are what they're offering to sell you really LSD?
  - stevehiehn 5y ago
    Sometimes, sometimes not. I believe its extremely important to get drugs tested.
perardi 5y ago
I mean, I would’t know, because it’s illegal. But theoretically, maybe… Yes, it is quite available, as is 1P-LSD, which is a pro-drug for LSD. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1P-LSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1P-LSD) Just get to know yourself someone in to the EDM scene. Even better if they are, I don’t know, a traveling go-go dancer with good connections. In my understanding, LSD is rarely faked, even though the production is quite difficult. Because the effective dose to make a person trip is tiny—we are talking about 200 micrograms. So once you do have a production pipeline established, it’s one the absolutely easiest drugs to smuggle and distribute, because it’s just so strong per gram. I don’t think it’s common for LSD to be be faked, because of that. Your most likely bad outcome with LSD is that it is…just nothing. Like, literally nothing on the blotter paper, or, the paper was exposed to moisture and/or UV light, which destroys the fragile molecule.
- sterlind 5y ago
  unfortunately not anymore. there's a number of legitimately dangerous psychedelics on blotters passed off as LSD, such as 25I-NBOMe. some people love it, some have seizures and die, some people die after several good trips with it. it's a shame because the good trips seem amazing, but it's not worth a horrible death.

It's been a little while but as of a few years ago it's certainly still widely available. It's easy to get a test kit if you'd like to verify what you have.

pmoriarty 5y ago
The problem is the testing kits only test for known substances. The substance you've been sold could also contain some new designer drug which no test will recognize.
- wombat-man 5y ago
  Yeah that's the idea of the test kit. It will change to a specific color if you have LSD. If you have some other designer drug it would either not react, or change to a different color depending on the test.
  - pmoriarty 5y ago
    What I'm talking about is there's both LSD and some novel designer drug in the sample. In that case the test would show the presence of LSD, but maybe not anything else (despite there being some designer drug there as well).
    - wombat-man 5y ago
      That's true. I haven't heard of people cutting LSD with other research chemicals. I'm not an expert, but from what I've gathered reading around is that other drugs that are effective at that dosage are sometimes easier to get ahold of but not necessarily cheaper. It's not like cocaine where it's very lucrative to cut the drug with fillers. Coke, after all, is sold by weight while LSD is at such small amounts I'm not sure what cutting it would really gain you. I feel like they're more likely to give you something under dosed and call it a day. I think it is possible to mail in a dose to a lab that can analyze it on a molecular level. Personally, I think if you can prove the existence of LSD, I would feel reasonably confident that that's the only active ingredient. But you're right, there's no way to know for sure. In any case, one should be careful with these types of things.

88840-8855 5y ago

You can buy pre-LSD fully legally and easily here in Germany. LSD is illegal, but the pre stage of LSD is not. There is a shop in Berlin (online + retail). you just go there and buy your LSD. the price is fair and the quality is very high as it is being produced in a controlled lab.

azinman2 5y ago
How do you go from the pre stage to final stage?
- 88840-8855 5y ago
  It happens in your body. Check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1V-LSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1V-LSD
  - azinman2 5y ago
    Unless I’m missing something, it doesn’t talk about how it occurs in your body. It seems more like an analog?
    - gpcr1949 5y ago
      This is a pro-drug, the valeroyl indole amide rapidly gets hydrolyzed to LSD in the body. Same thing applies for ALD-52,1P,1B,1cP-LSD. This also means that at some point, these will be made illegal or will fall under blanket "analog" legislation.

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stevehiehn 5y ago

It is very easy to source at North American music festivals. Particularly EDM-ish festivals. In fact its very common for people just offer to sell it to you unprompted. (I suspect Europe is similar but I have not really attended festivals there).

pmoriarty 5y ago
"its very common for people just offer to sell it to you unprompted" But are what they're offering to sell you really LSD?
- stevehiehn 5y ago
  Sometimes, sometimes not. I believe its extremely important to get drugs tested.

perardi 5y ago

I mean, I would’t know, because it’s illegal. But theoretically, maybe… Yes, it is quite available, as is 1P-LSD, which is a pro-drug for LSD. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1P-LSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1P-LSD) Just get to know yourself someone in to the EDM scene. Even better if they are, I don’t know, a traveling go-go dancer with good connections. In my understanding, LSD is rarely faked, even though the production is quite difficult. Because the effective dose to make a person trip is tiny—we are talking about 200 micrograms. So once you do have a production pipeline established, it’s one the absolutely easiest drugs to smuggle and distribute, because it’s just so strong per gram. I don’t think it’s common for LSD to be be faked, because of that. Your most likely bad outcome with LSD is that it is…just nothing. Like, literally nothing on the blotter paper, or, the paper was exposed to moisture and/or UV light, which destroys the fragile molecule.

sterlind 5y ago
unfortunately not anymore. there's a number of legitimately dangerous psychedelics on blotters passed off as LSD, such as 25I-NBOMe. some people love it, some have seizures and die, some people die after several good trips with it. it's a shame because the good trips seem amazing, but it's not worth a horrible death.