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From your link: > Use Bluetooth headphones instead of corded ones. My dislike of this sentence is so potent it could fuel a lifelong plan to do the opposite o

From your link: > Use Bluetooth headphones instead of corded ones. My dislike of this sentence is so potent it could fuel a lifelong plan to do the opposite of all your points just to spite the list that gave birth to it. In more practical terms, the fact that I did not fudge around with Bluetooth headphone problems in the last year alone probably saved me enough time to enjoy a peaceful, tasty dinner at a fine dining establishment.

eternityforest 5y ago
Really? What phone OS are you on? On new Androids BT is wonderful, all the switching is in the tray menu. Turn on headphones, it connects, turn them off or use the switch to go back. I also don't ever turn Bluetooth off though, or even have the button to do so in my quick shortcuts, so things might be different if I did. And I do remember older androids being annoying, since you couldn't switch away from the headphones in a hurry without turning it off. But as is, I'm pretty much pro-3.5mmless and don't think I'd ever want to go back to cords.
- stephendause 5y ago
  Not the parent comment, but I have had a devil of a time getting Bluetooth headphones to work with Ubuntu. By contrast, my experience with Android has been the same as yours -- basically flawless, and I love it.
  - eternityforest 5y ago
    Sharing a Bluetooth between multiple devices does seem to be a weak point of the protocol, that only works when the device explicitly supports it like Logitech's fantastic mice. I expect PipeWire is going to fix this for the most part though. I haven't really used BT much on desktop in general though, I have a Fire stick for videos and phones are perfectly fine for music.
- bradknowles 5y ago
  Bluetooth hell is far worse than any dependency hell I have ever seen. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Bluetooth audio is just about the worst possible audio that could possibly exist and still survive. The proprietary 2.4ghz wireless audio formats from Logitech and HyperX are proof that wireless audio can work, and work well. Bluetooth exists as the counter example of how bad an audio format can be, and somehow still survive.
marcosdumay 5y ago
I think I've wasted mote time on the last 2 years fudging around bad contacts on wired phones than around bluetooth ones. But I only ever use them on some kind of Linux, where I avoid the bullshit of the "this phone is not allowed to plug into this application" kind (I don't know about Macs). And Android is getting close enough to it that I've seen related problems (on Microsoft applications, obviously).

eternityforest 5y ago

Really? What phone OS are you on? On new Androids BT is wonderful, all the switching is in the tray menu. Turn on headphones, it connects, turn them off or use the switch to go back. I also don't ever turn Bluetooth off though, or even have the button to do so in my quick shortcuts, so things might be different if I did. And I do remember older androids being annoying, since you couldn't switch away from the headphones in a hurry without turning it off. But as is, I'm pretty much pro-3.5mmless and don't think I'd ever want to go back to cords.

stephendause 5y ago
Not the parent comment, but I have had a devil of a time getting Bluetooth headphones to work with Ubuntu. By contrast, my experience with Android has been the same as yours -- basically flawless, and I love it.
- eternityforest 5y ago
  Sharing a Bluetooth between multiple devices does seem to be a weak point of the protocol, that only works when the device explicitly supports it like Logitech's fantastic mice. I expect PipeWire is going to fix this for the most part though. I haven't really used BT much on desktop in general though, I have a Fire stick for videos and phones are perfectly fine for music.
bradknowles 5y ago
Bluetooth hell is far worse than any dependency hell I have ever seen. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Bluetooth audio is just about the worst possible audio that could possibly exist and still survive. The proprietary 2.4ghz wireless audio formats from Logitech and HyperX are proof that wireless audio can work, and work well. Bluetooth exists as the counter example of how bad an audio format can be, and somehow still survive.

marcosdumay 5y ago

I think I've wasted mote time on the last 2 years fudging around bad contacts on wired phones than around bluetooth ones. But I only ever use them on some kind of Linux, where I avoid the bullshit of the "this phone is not allowed to plug into this application" kind (I don't know about Macs). And Android is getting close enough to it that I've seen related problems (on Microsoft applications, obviously).