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The interoperability is lovely, looking forward to having just one app! > And among the restrictions are stipulations that gatekeepers cannot: > [...] > requir

The interoperability is lovely, looking forward to having just one app! > And among the restrictions are stipulations that gatekeepers cannot: > [...] > require app developers to use certain services (such as payment systems or identity providers) in order to be listed in app stores. This is a giant blow for Apple. I am very curious to see how and if this will be implemented, and enforced!

anaccountexists 5y ago
Isn’t it… the opposite of a blow to Apple? If there interoperability, why would I ever use anything than my phone’s default messaging app? (Especially if E2E encryption is a requirement, which it looks like it is) This is just regulatory capture cementing the OS owners above app developers.
- ryukafalz 5y ago
  It means that even if you still use the default iOS messaging app, your contacts can use other messaging apps, rather than being locked into iMessage and therefore the Apple ecosystem. It breaks down some of the barriers to competition for new mobile OSes and messaging apps. This is a good thing.
  - amelius 5y ago
    Yeah, I have been effectively banned from video chatting with my family, since they all use FaceTime.
- onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
  Because some users might like a different messaging app better than the default one?
- playpause 5y ago
  The comment you’re replying to is about app stores, not messaging.
- dmitriid 5y ago
  Messages are big in the US. But in Europe I've seen people using anything but Messages. So Europe will happily continue using other messengers, but now in a more interoperable way, hopefully.
dmarchand90 5y ago
Agreed, this seems like good and sensible legislation. Imagine having multiple telephone systems, or "internets".
tomjen3 5y ago
It is also really annoying for those of us who like the fact that canceling is easy, and that I can count on it being easy. At least make it so that the choice of merchant should be the user, not the app developer.

anaccountexists 5y ago

Isn’t it… the opposite of a blow to Apple? If there interoperability, why would I ever use anything than my phone’s default messaging app? (Especially if E2E encryption is a requirement, which it looks like it is) This is just regulatory capture cementing the OS owners above app developers.

ryukafalz 5y ago
It means that even if you still use the default iOS messaging app, your contacts can use other messaging apps, rather than being locked into iMessage and therefore the Apple ecosystem. It breaks down some of the barriers to competition for new mobile OSes and messaging apps. This is a good thing.
- amelius 5y ago
  Yeah, I have been effectively banned from video chatting with my family, since they all use FaceTime.
onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
Because some users might like a different messaging app better than the default one?
playpause 5y ago
The comment you’re replying to is about app stores, not messaging.
dmitriid 5y ago
Messages are big in the US. But in Europe I've seen people using anything but Messages. So Europe will happily continue using other messengers, but now in a more interoperable way, hopefully.

dmarchand90 5y ago

Agreed, this seems like good and sensible legislation. Imagine having multiple telephone systems, or "internets".

tomjen3 5y ago

It is also really annoying for those of us who like the fact that canceling is easy, and that I can count on it being easy. At least make it so that the choice of merchant should be the user, not the app developer.