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I had never heard of Mark Fisher, so thanks for sharing. The fact that he admired Burial has certainly piqued my interest and Mark Fishers focus on futures ne

I had never heard of Mark Fisher, so thanks for sharing. The fact that he admired Burial has certainly piqued my interest and Mark Fishers focus on futures never-to-be really aligns perfectly with my tendency to wallow in SehnSucht often brought on by Boards of Canada or paintings by Simon Stålenhag: https://www.simonstalenhag.se/ https://www.simonstalenhag.se/

beepbooptheory 5y ago
I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure that he is the only person to ever interview Burial [1]. Another person he was very interested in, and was certainly right about in terms of their artistic merit is Leyland Kirby aka The Caretaker, who in a very different way manifests Fisher's ideas about hauntology [2]. 1. https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedited-transcript https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedi... 2. https://archive.org/details/wire-304-caretaker https://archive.org/details/wire-304-caretaker
- wahnfrieden 5y ago
  Several interviews exist
- futureproofd 5y ago
  There's also this common obsession around Burial with music geeks that he (Burial) was so mysterious that no one ever knew who he was, or that he never gave interviews (except to M.F.), which is obviously wrong. There's lots of info on him, similarly to Aphex Twin. I think the lack of media presence is more about intentionally avoiding crap that comes with it.
  - beepbooptheory 5y ago
    I agree. I mean in that interview he talks about being a kind nervous/asocial guy. I think Richard has said similar things. Do not blame them at all. And when you can music like they can, you can get away with letting the songs speak for themselves.
- jamal-kumar 5y ago
  Weren't they both in the CCRU?
  - grp 5y ago
    Yes, I believe or they met at the Warwick university. edit: with Kode9 too, https://mitpress.mit.edu/contributors/steve-goodman https://mitpress.mit.edu/contributors/steve-goodman
futureproofd 5y ago
Interesting examples of related art. M.F. also mentions the paintings of Nigel Cooke in one of his writings > https://www.juxtapoz.com/news/paintings-by-nigel-cooke/ https://www.juxtapoz.com/news/paintings-by-nigel-cooke/ One music artist that I've been enjoying listening to lately is Biosphere. Specifically the Substrata album; To me it feels like a foreboding journey of the present with longings of some past.
- grafelic 5y ago
  Biospheres Substrata album is a gem and I can wholeheartedly relate to the feeling you describe it invokes in you. Perhaps you will enjoy something like Bohren und Der Club of Gore as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwWDO3IrMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwWDO3IrMI I think Mark Fisher might have. Thanks for sharing Nigel Cookes paintings, which also clearly has that retrofuturistic vibe with a sprinkling of psychedelia.
  - futureproofd 5y ago
    This is great, thank you. I love a good music exchange. And the comment below on Adam Curtis leaves me with hours of digging down this particular rabbit hole. Good stuff.
rektide 5y ago
Collage historical/philosophical/political documentary maker Adam Curtis uses Burial a lot, has great things to say[1][2], > "I think Burial is the genius of our time... The most important Burial song to listen to, which will tell you everything about him, is Come Down to Us... Why it's so incredible, because what Burial does is he takes what is essentially industrial noise - and songs - but fuses them together to create something that is epic and romantic, and sort of gives you a clue of the sort of thing that might be coming, culturally - which is a higher [?] system, I think. And I think he's there ahead of everyone. It's so emotional; yet, at the same time, just noise. And, I don't know, it's just, I can't - sorry, this is me being inarticulate - it's just... wonderful... It takes you into another world." HyperNormalization & Can't Get You Out Of My Head are both amazing modern Curtis works. Going back & watching some of his older stuff like Bitter Lake has been as ever intense & powerful & stunning. Keeping a real eye on the world, really seeing it, is a talent Fisher & his writing showed off. Curtis gives us a wiser, more understandable interlace of the tapestry, through his documentaries, to see with. Just... be prepared for even more self-care afterwards. [1] https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/33496/1/adam-curtis-hypernormalization-bbc-film-power https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/33496/1/... https://www.reddit.com/r/burial/comments/6dg2or/adam_buxton_interviews_adam_curtis_talks_about/ https://www.reddit.com/r/burial/comments/6dg2or/adam_buxton_...

beepbooptheory 5y ago

I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure that he is the only person to ever interview Burial [1]. Another person he was very interested in, and was certainly right about in terms of their artistic merit is Leyland Kirby aka The Caretaker, who in a very different way manifests Fisher's ideas about hauntology [2]. 1. https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedited-transcript https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedi... 2. https://archive.org/details/wire-304-caretaker https://archive.org/details/wire-304-caretaker

wahnfrieden 5y ago
Several interviews exist
futureproofd 5y ago
There's also this common obsession around Burial with music geeks that he (Burial) was so mysterious that no one ever knew who he was, or that he never gave interviews (except to M.F.), which is obviously wrong. There's lots of info on him, similarly to Aphex Twin. I think the lack of media presence is more about intentionally avoiding crap that comes with it.
- beepbooptheory 5y ago
  I agree. I mean in that interview he talks about being a kind nervous/asocial guy. I think Richard has said similar things. Do not blame them at all. And when you can music like they can, you can get away with letting the songs speak for themselves.
jamal-kumar 5y ago
Weren't they both in the CCRU?
- grp 5y ago
  Yes, I believe or they met at the Warwick university. edit: with Kode9 too, https://mitpress.mit.edu/contributors/steve-goodman https://mitpress.mit.edu/contributors/steve-goodman

futureproofd 5y ago

Interesting examples of related art. M.F. also mentions the paintings of Nigel Cooke in one of his writings > https://www.juxtapoz.com/news/paintings-by-nigel-cooke/ https://www.juxtapoz.com/news/paintings-by-nigel-cooke/ One music artist that I've been enjoying listening to lately is Biosphere. Specifically the Substrata album; To me it feels like a foreboding journey of the present with longings of some past.

grafelic 5y ago
Biospheres Substrata album is a gem and I can wholeheartedly relate to the feeling you describe it invokes in you. Perhaps you will enjoy something like Bohren und Der Club of Gore as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwWDO3IrMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwWDO3IrMI I think Mark Fisher might have. Thanks for sharing Nigel Cookes paintings, which also clearly has that retrofuturistic vibe with a sprinkling of psychedelia.
- futureproofd 5y ago
  This is great, thank you. I love a good music exchange. And the comment below on Adam Curtis leaves me with hours of digging down this particular rabbit hole. Good stuff.

rektide 5y ago

Collage historical/philosophical/political documentary maker Adam Curtis uses Burial a lot, has great things to say[1][2], > "I think Burial is the genius of our time... The most important Burial song to listen to, which will tell you everything about him, is Come Down to Us... Why it's so incredible, because what Burial does is he takes what is essentially industrial noise - and songs - but fuses them together to create something that is epic and romantic, and sort of gives you a clue of the sort of thing that might be coming, culturally - which is a higher [?] system, I think. And I think he's there ahead of everyone. It's so emotional; yet, at the same time, just noise. And, I don't know, it's just, I can't - sorry, this is me being inarticulate - it's just... wonderful... It takes you into another world." HyperNormalization & Can't Get You Out Of My Head are both amazing modern Curtis works. Going back & watching some of his older stuff like Bitter Lake has been as ever intense & powerful & stunning. Keeping a real eye on the world, really seeing it, is a talent Fisher & his writing showed off. Curtis gives us a wiser, more understandable interlace of the tapestry, through his documentaries, to see with. Just... be prepared for even more self-care afterwards. [1] https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/33496/1/adam-curtis-hypernormalization-bbc-film-power https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/33496/1/... https://www.reddit.com/r/burial/comments/6dg2or/adam_buxton_interviews_adam_curtis_talks_about/ https://www.reddit.com/r/burial/comments/6dg2or/adam_buxton_...