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> Test engineers of a "shipped" product should obvioulsy get credited, yet. (I mean, movie credits have the name of cattering people ! You worked on it ? You ge
by mananaysiempre 5y ago
> Test engineers of a "shipped" product should obvioulsy get credited, yet. (I mean, movie credits have the name of cattering people ! You worked on it ? You get your name in the credits.)
No particular deep knowledge here, but: my impression is this was a long and painful push by various unions and agents, with “top billing” becoming an actual thing to be negotiated as part of an actor’s contract, etc. Even having the end credits at all seems to be a workaround for accomodating the enormous number of people who insist on being credited: movies from the 30s seem to be perfectly content to just list the production company, the stars, and maybe the director at the start.
Of course, it takes at most a couple generations of professionals to shift from “this is a thing won through hard negotiations” to “this is a thing that everybody is entitled to by common morality”, but my point is it didn’t (appear to) start that way, it had to be squeezed out from the execs over years.
(Of course movies also don’t need maintenance or refactoring, at least not in the sense of requiring other actors and camera crews to come in.)
- Melatonic 5y agoIt was definitely a thing unions fought for - a big thing actually. This is the reason why there are so many people missing on movie credits who worked on the VFX - there is no VFX union (there was a huge scheme by some very big name assholes back in the day to block it - and a huge court settlement). Watch any major Marvel or other VFX heavy film and some of the studios will get full credits for their teams while other smaller ones will just list the studio name, the VFX Supervisor (top of the chain) and a few other people. There are tons and tons missing.