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What sort of topics are you looking for in all the noise?

hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
Unless I’m your target audience specifically then that’s not a relevant question. I imagine the popular topics published by major news providers would be a pretty good indication generically.
- jaredwiener 5y ago
  But maybe that’s what I’m getting at. Something resonates with people when asked this question—that’s why we’re here. I’m curious what you are looking for — and especially what you might not be finding.
  - ddingus 5y ago
    It does! Not what you are asking directly, but I happen to have had many conversations about this. Trust is low. People feel spoken at, not talked about (in ways they identify with, not judged) or with, like we do not put average people's takes out there. The big players get things wrong a lot. People know and they hate it. They hate not seeing corrections, anything to close the loop and show the wrong is recognized. Something. Access journalism. Nuff said. Point of view. That spoken at bit above. A majority of the people do not identify with that. They would love to get news for people who shower after work, if that helps.
    - jaredwiener 5y ago
      That helps tremendously, actually. Curious who you trust, and why?
      - ddingus 5y ago
        First, I don't trust much. I want to. It is hard to get informed in this mess. Bias is OK. Frankly, as long as a source is honest about their bias, I trust them more! Making objective material on a cable news cycle can't happen. It takes a lot of us, time, real effort to do that. Clarity matters because the facts can be had apart from a sources take. And I want that, a few actually, then weigh it all when I can. I can't always. Clarity helps me trust more. Right now, I have little trust with the big players. Indies are good, but spotty. Here is an interesting dynamic: Foreign media can do things domestic can't. Different advertising, or is State funded, or BBC style, CBC. And they don't worry about access so much. I trust that as a check and balance against what I see as a media monoculture here domestically. Disclosure! If people do that? I want to trust. Will try. Because that matters, and speaks to their conflicts of interest. That is a big help with trust, when to trust, on what.
      - hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
        I live in Australia. State run media (abc and sbs) have a left-leaning (as in, more aligned with Obama than trump) bias. I’m certainly left leaning but Open to reasonable conservative/right wing perspectives. The problem is that I perceive all right wing media to have a huge bias and don’t believe my view is unreasonable. there was a call for a royal commission into Murdoch and other media superpowers which reached 500k signatures on change.org, but barely mentioned in mainstream media. in contrast, a homo/transphobic conservative school ‘contract’ hit barely 20k signatures before being blown up by virtually all media for days (I’m not saying the topic/issue was unimportant, fwiw). Think about that on a broader scale, locally there have been a fair few pushes into privacy / freedom erosion over the past decade. I’m not trying to sway people into my way of thinking, but I don’t think currently the media really gives people a reasonable discussion of real issues.
        ddingus 5y ago
        >I don’t think currently the media really gives people a reasonable Agreed. Are you able to speak to pre Murdoch media there?
        hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
        Not really, I’m too young. It’s probably hard to gauge based on the explosion of the internet, it wasn’t too long ago that we all believed in heresay
        ddingus 5y ago
        Indeed! Well, great points made. Hope the OP gets something they can use from our chatter. I am always a supporter of new media takes. It is not very good now. Maybe one of these takes off and we see an improvement.

Unless I’m your target audience specifically then that’s not a relevant question. I imagine the popular topics published by major news providers would be a pretty good indication generically.

jaredwiener 5y ago
But maybe that’s what I’m getting at. Something resonates with people when asked this question—that’s why we’re here. I’m curious what you are looking for — and especially what you might not be finding.
- ddingus 5y ago
  It does! Not what you are asking directly, but I happen to have had many conversations about this. Trust is low. People feel spoken at, not talked about (in ways they identify with, not judged) or with, like we do not put average people's takes out there. The big players get things wrong a lot. People know and they hate it. They hate not seeing corrections, anything to close the loop and show the wrong is recognized. Something. Access journalism. Nuff said. Point of view. That spoken at bit above. A majority of the people do not identify with that. They would love to get news for people who shower after work, if that helps.
  - jaredwiener 5y ago
    That helps tremendously, actually. Curious who you trust, and why?
    - ddingus 5y ago
      First, I don't trust much. I want to. It is hard to get informed in this mess. Bias is OK. Frankly, as long as a source is honest about their bias, I trust them more! Making objective material on a cable news cycle can't happen. It takes a lot of us, time, real effort to do that. Clarity matters because the facts can be had apart from a sources take. And I want that, a few actually, then weigh it all when I can. I can't always. Clarity helps me trust more. Right now, I have little trust with the big players. Indies are good, but spotty. Here is an interesting dynamic: Foreign media can do things domestic can't. Different advertising, or is State funded, or BBC style, CBC. And they don't worry about access so much. I trust that as a check and balance against what I see as a media monoculture here domestically. Disclosure! If people do that? I want to trust. Will try. Because that matters, and speaks to their conflicts of interest. That is a big help with trust, when to trust, on what.
    - hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
      I live in Australia. State run media (abc and sbs) have a left-leaning (as in, more aligned with Obama than trump) bias. I’m certainly left leaning but Open to reasonable conservative/right wing perspectives. The problem is that I perceive all right wing media to have a huge bias and don’t believe my view is unreasonable. there was a call for a royal commission into Murdoch and other media superpowers which reached 500k signatures on change.org, but barely mentioned in mainstream media. in contrast, a homo/transphobic conservative school ‘contract’ hit barely 20k signatures before being blown up by virtually all media for days (I’m not saying the topic/issue was unimportant, fwiw). Think about that on a broader scale, locally there have been a fair few pushes into privacy / freedom erosion over the past decade. I’m not trying to sway people into my way of thinking, but I don’t think currently the media really gives people a reasonable discussion of real issues.
      - ddingus 5y ago
        >I don’t think currently the media really gives people a reasonable Agreed. Are you able to speak to pre Murdoch media there?
      - hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
        Not really, I’m too young. It’s probably hard to gauge based on the explosion of the internet, it wasn’t too long ago that we all believed in heresay
        ddingus 5y ago
        Indeed! Well, great points made. Hope the OP gets something they can use from our chatter. I am always a supporter of new media takes. It is not very good now. Maybe one of these takes off and we see an improvement.