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A lot of gamers who can perceive the difference between frame rates often refuse to believe it, but some people can't perceive the difference. Every time I try,

by searls 5y ago

A lot of gamers who can perceive the difference between frame rates often refuse to believe it, but some people can't perceive the difference. Every time I try, I fail blind taste tests between 60hz and 120hz content. Meanwhile, I can easily perceive fine details in resolution & DPI and the subtlest blur or aliasing is probably as jarring to me as a low frame rate is to a gamer who prioritizes FPS counts

shrimp_emoji 5y ago
That's crazy. 60 and 120 are night and day. Moving the cursor around at 60 feels like of like waving your hand under one of those LED lights that "invisibly" strobe to save energy.
- JoshTriplett 5y ago
  > That's crazy. 60 and 120 are night and day. Moving the cursor around at 60 feels like of like waving your hand under one of those LED lights that "invisibly" strobe to save energy. Many people can't perceive that LED flicker either (or before that, fluorescent light flicker), while others can. I'm a huge fan of the RTINGS monitor reviews, which measure backlight flicker and identify which monitors do and don't have it, because I can notice that flicker and it gives me a headache.
ricardobeat 5y ago
I find that hard to believe - most likely the tests you've done were not really exercising 120hz. It's easily noticeable side-by-side even by someone who has no idea how monitors work. The easiest test: move the mouse cursor in a circle repeatedly. The trail at 60hz will complete the full circle, while it will be barely visible at 120/144hz.
bentcorner 5y ago
Try this test: https://www.testufo.com/framerates-versus https://www.testufo.com/framerates-versus I think even if you only have a 60hz monitor it'll compare 60 vs 30, you should be able to see a difference between them. I have mine at 180hz and it's extremely easy to track horizontally moving objects at 180hz, and it's almost impossible to see anything in the 30hz content.
- astrange 5y ago
  You should be able to build a monitor to pass that test with motion interpolation, like how TVs do it. I don't think anyone's done it, but not sure if that's from added cost or added latency.

by searls 5y ago

shrimp_emoji 5y ago

That's crazy. 60 and 120 are night and day. Moving the cursor around at 60 feels like of like waving your hand under one of those LED lights that "invisibly" strobe to save energy.

JoshTriplett 5y ago
> That's crazy. 60 and 120 are night and day. Moving the cursor around at 60 feels like of like waving your hand under one of those LED lights that "invisibly" strobe to save energy. Many people can't perceive that LED flicker either (or before that, fluorescent light flicker), while others can. I'm a huge fan of the RTINGS monitor reviews, which measure backlight flicker and identify which monitors do and don't have it, because I can notice that flicker and it gives me a headache.

ricardobeat 5y ago

I find that hard to believe - most likely the tests you've done were not really exercising 120hz. It's easily noticeable side-by-side even by someone who has no idea how monitors work. The easiest test: move the mouse cursor in a circle repeatedly. The trail at 60hz will complete the full circle, while it will be barely visible at 120/144hz.

bentcorner 5y ago

Try this test: https://www.testufo.com/framerates-versus https://www.testufo.com/framerates-versus I think even if you only have a 60hz monitor it'll compare 60 vs 30, you should be able to see a difference between them. I have mine at 180hz and it's extremely easy to track horizontally moving objects at 180hz, and it's almost impossible to see anything in the 30hz content.

astrange 5y ago
You should be able to build a monitor to pass that test with motion interpolation, like how TVs do it. I don't think anyone's done it, but not sure if that's from added cost or added latency.