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Over the past few months we’ve been trying hard to make Appwrite as simple to setup and use as possible. Your candid feedback has been crucial in shaping the pr

Over the past few months we’ve been trying hard to make Appwrite as simple to setup and use as possible. Your candid feedback has been crucial in shaping the project and it would be great if you can share some features you’d like to see in the project going forward. What is Appwrite ? In simplest terms, Appwrite is an open source Backend As A Service (aka BaaS). Appwrite is an all in one solution with all the essentials you need like Authentication, User Management, Realtime Databases, Webhooks, Storage, Cloud Functions, SDKs for your favourite language and it’s light weight. Appwrite even runs on a Raspberry Pi. Most importantly, Appwrite is self-hosted which means you own your data and prevent any vendor lock-ins. Talking about Appwrite’s features - Realtime Databases and events ( Recent benchmarks have showed a single server handling 1M+ concurrent connections ) - SDKs for iOS, Android, Flutter, Web ( React, Angular, Vue, Svelte etc.) Python, PHP, Node, Deno, Kotlin and more - Bring your own Database - Use your choice of SQL or MySQL databases ( MariaDB, MySQL, MongoDB and more ) - Database permissions for finer tuned access control - Storage API with built in encryption, compression and antivirus - Bring your own Storage - Use your choice of the local filesystem, DigitalOcean Spaces, S3 or an any other storage provider of your choice - Cloud functions with support for over 20 runtimes - Webhooks to connect with 3rd party APIs and services - User Management and Authentication - Multiple authentication methods - email, 25+ OAuth providers, JWT, API Keys - Completely stateless and extensible architecture allowing easy integration with your existing backend - A Dashboard, CLI and VSCode extensions to manage your server and many more...

Magodo 5y ago
Thank you so much for Appwrite! The community on Discord is very helpful and the self hosting guide is great. Very unlike my terrible experience with Supabase who seem to do their best to cripple the self hosted option
- tr3ntg 5y ago
  I was hoping someone here would compare the two. I might have to give Appwrite a try after all. Supabase's self-hosted option was wack when I tried it a few months ago.
  - eldad_fux 5y ago
    Our self-hosted solution was designed to be easy to setup in both development and production. I hope you'll enjoy our single command installation. Also, self-hosting is at the core of what we do and once our cloud solution is out, we don't plan to add weird disabilities to it.
  - vincentge 5y ago
    My honest two cents, which is biased, so take liberal amounts of salt. I think Supabase is verbose. You get to dig around the PostgreSQL instance, write SQL, etc. I know people that live and die by SQL, so if that sounds like you, Supabase is great. Appwrite is more about simplicity. Our SDKs are simple, our UI is simple, our Documentation is simple, heck we even have a 1 line deploy: docker run -it --rm \ --volume /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock \ --volume "$(pwd)"/appwrite:/usr/src/code/appwrite:rw \ --entrypoint="install" \ appwrite/appwrite:latest Use a part of Appwrite, or all of it. Heck, go dig in our code or checkout our open sourced Functions runtime. We don't care, we just want you to do more while writing less code. Both have their audience, both are great, see which one suits your needs better :)
  - 20220322-beans 5y ago
    What are the issues with self hosting Supabase?
nicoburns 5y ago
I put this on Supabase's launch post too, but would you consider supporting a more traditional compute model? i.e. the ability to run an always-on docker container that runs a web server or similar (similar to dokku or heroku). I realise functions are the new hotness, but as far as I can see for non hobby projects they mainly have downsides any very little upside.
- vincentmarle 5y ago
  From their readme it looks like you can host it however you want: > Appwrite backend server is designed to run in a container environment. Running your server is as easy as running one command from your terminal. You can either run Appwrite on your localhost using docker-compose or on any other container orchestration tool like Kubernetes, Docker Swarm, or Rancher.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    Hmm... I think I'm not quite the target market. For me the whole point of a tool like this is that I don't need to worry about maintaining this kind of thing. All the guff around auth and functions is just stuff I have to put up with to get that hosted niceness.
    - vincentge 5y ago
      There's two ways to address this if you don't wanna maintain/host. There will be a hosted Appwrite Cloud option => https://appwrite.io/cloud https://appwrite.io/cloud There is a way to do 1 click deployment on Digital Ocean Marketplace: https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/appwrite https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/appwrite With these options, you can put off the whole mess with devops, infra, and hosting to someone else :')
- eldad_fux 5y ago
  Yes, this is something we would consider in the long run. Functions are great, but not for every use case.
qbasic_forever 5y ago
Wow, that's an impressive set of features! I remember kicking the tires on the service a year ago and liked it but didn't have a big need for it. It looks like a lot of great stuff has been added in the time since then.
- eldad_fux 5y ago
  Thank you so much! We've been working very hard the last year, and looking back - yeh we did add a lot of stuff :)
vincentmarle 5y ago
I was about to throw in the towel after evaluating Firebase / Supabase last week for a new project I'm working on and revert back to good o'l Laravel, but Appwrite looks very interesting and could potentially solve my problem so I'll definitely check it out! Just one question: is there also Postgres support?
- eldad_fux 5y ago
  Not yet, but it's coming soon. Appwrite is not coupled to any database or other under the hood technology.
- kiwicopple 5y ago
  I’m curious why Supabase didn’t suit your needs, especially since you’re looking for Postgres support? (Disclosure: supabase ceo)
  - ctxc 5y ago
    Hi, when are Supabase Functions expected to be released? I'm quickly reaching a point in my project where direct DB calls don't cut it and I don't want to muck about with PG functions especially since I'm familiar with other programming languages. :( Some suggestions: Using Supabase took me 5x the amount of time it should have taken me, honestly. 1. There needs to be more official snippets, PG especially. Create view, modify table, change constraints, and so on. If I'm your target demographic, it pays to watch issues raised/FAQs and integrate it in the UI. For example, I'm not very familiar with SQL and PG features. I had to learn the hard way that RLS does not apply to views. Basic for someone who knows DBs? Maybe. But I'm someone who wants to ship my product and my expertise is elsewhere. Would have loved to see this info in the UI. 2. Some things are just so hard to find! I spent a lot of time looking for something so simple. I think it was views? And also something under user authentication, I don't remember. Maybe you would benefit from user research - get a dev who hasn't used Supabase before, watch them build something with this and then address pain points.
    - kiwicopple 5y ago
lfkdev 5y ago
Godot support would be awesome
- eldad_fux 5y ago
  Something like this? https://github.com/GodotNuts/appwrite-sdk https://github.com/GodotNuts/appwrite-sdk :)
  - lfkdev 5y ago
    Yes, Awesome!

Magodo 5y ago

Thank you so much for Appwrite! The community on Discord is very helpful and the self hosting guide is great. Very unlike my terrible experience with Supabase who seem to do their best to cripple the self hosted option

tr3ntg 5y ago
I was hoping someone here would compare the two. I might have to give Appwrite a try after all. Supabase's self-hosted option was wack when I tried it a few months ago.
- eldad_fux 5y ago
  Our self-hosted solution was designed to be easy to setup in both development and production. I hope you'll enjoy our single command installation. Also, self-hosting is at the core of what we do and once our cloud solution is out, we don't plan to add weird disabilities to it.
- vincentge 5y ago
  My honest two cents, which is biased, so take liberal amounts of salt. I think Supabase is verbose. You get to dig around the PostgreSQL instance, write SQL, etc. I know people that live and die by SQL, so if that sounds like you, Supabase is great. Appwrite is more about simplicity. Our SDKs are simple, our UI is simple, our Documentation is simple, heck we even have a 1 line deploy: docker run -it --rm \ --volume /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock \ --volume "$(pwd)"/appwrite:/usr/src/code/appwrite:rw \ --entrypoint="install" \ appwrite/appwrite:latest Use a part of Appwrite, or all of it. Heck, go dig in our code or checkout our open sourced Functions runtime. We don't care, we just want you to do more while writing less code. Both have their audience, both are great, see which one suits your needs better :)
- 20220322-beans 5y ago
  What are the issues with self hosting Supabase?

nicoburns 5y ago

I put this on Supabase's launch post too, but would you consider supporting a more traditional compute model? i.e. the ability to run an always-on docker container that runs a web server or similar (similar to dokku or heroku). I realise functions are the new hotness, but as far as I can see for non hobby projects they mainly have downsides any very little upside.

vincentmarle 5y ago
From their readme it looks like you can host it however you want: > Appwrite backend server is designed to run in a container environment. Running your server is as easy as running one command from your terminal. You can either run Appwrite on your localhost using docker-compose or on any other container orchestration tool like Kubernetes, Docker Swarm, or Rancher.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  Hmm... I think I'm not quite the target market. For me the whole point of a tool like this is that I don't need to worry about maintaining this kind of thing. All the guff around auth and functions is just stuff I have to put up with to get that hosted niceness.
  - vincentge 5y ago
    There's two ways to address this if you don't wanna maintain/host. There will be a hosted Appwrite Cloud option => https://appwrite.io/cloud https://appwrite.io/cloud There is a way to do 1 click deployment on Digital Ocean Marketplace: https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/appwrite https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/appwrite With these options, you can put off the whole mess with devops, infra, and hosting to someone else :')
eldad_fux 5y ago
Yes, this is something we would consider in the long run. Functions are great, but not for every use case.

qbasic_forever 5y ago

Wow, that's an impressive set of features! I remember kicking the tires on the service a year ago and liked it but didn't have a big need for it. It looks like a lot of great stuff has been added in the time since then.

eldad_fux 5y ago
Thank you so much! We've been working very hard the last year, and looking back - yeh we did add a lot of stuff :)

vincentmarle 5y ago

I was about to throw in the towel after evaluating Firebase / Supabase last week for a new project I'm working on and revert back to good o'l Laravel, but Appwrite looks very interesting and could potentially solve my problem so I'll definitely check it out! Just one question: is there also Postgres support?

eldad_fux 5y ago
Not yet, but it's coming soon. Appwrite is not coupled to any database or other under the hood technology.
kiwicopple 5y ago
I’m curious why Supabase didn’t suit your needs, especially since you’re looking for Postgres support? (Disclosure: supabase ceo)
- ctxc 5y ago
  Hi, when are Supabase Functions expected to be released? I'm quickly reaching a point in my project where direct DB calls don't cut it and I don't want to muck about with PG functions especially since I'm familiar with other programming languages. :( Some suggestions: Using Supabase took me 5x the amount of time it should have taken me, honestly. 1. There needs to be more official snippets, PG especially. Create view, modify table, change constraints, and so on. If I'm your target demographic, it pays to watch issues raised/FAQs and integrate it in the UI. For example, I'm not very familiar with SQL and PG features. I had to learn the hard way that RLS does not apply to views. Basic for someone who knows DBs? Maybe. But I'm someone who wants to ship my product and my expertise is elsewhere. Would have loved to see this info in the UI. 2. Some things are just so hard to find! I spent a lot of time looking for something so simple. I think it was views? And also something under user authentication, I don't remember. Maybe you would benefit from user research - get a dev who hasn't used Supabase before, watch them build something with this and then address pain points.
  - kiwicopple 5y ago

lfkdev 5y ago

Godot support would be awesome

eldad_fux 5y ago
Something like this? https://github.com/GodotNuts/appwrite-sdk https://github.com/GodotNuts/appwrite-sdk :)
- lfkdev 5y ago
  Yes, Awesome!