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Samsung counters iPhone 4S with Galaxy S II comparison chart
- drzaiusapelord 15y agoWow, is the 4GS on Sprint and Verizon really CDMA 3G? As a previous Sprint customer I was rarely able to crack 1mbps on their 3G network, and my average speeds were around 200 or 300kbps. I have a mere 3G t-mobile HSPA phone now that cracks 4mbps routinely and must average at 2 or 3mbps per second. I don't have battery issues or anything. Its just fast and it works. 3G CDMA is something I had on my windows Treo like 6 years ago. Its incredible how this ancient technology is the standard for millions of new iPhone 4S customers. I feel sorry for the guys signing 2 year contracts on this stuff.
- technoslut 15y ago>I feel sorry for the guys signing 2 year contracts on this stuff. This comes off as a fanboy response or at least ill-informed. Right now 4G devices drain battery life. It is faster but there are compromises to be made. One could easily argue that Samsung has a lower res screen and ppi, the A5 is vastly superior to the Enyox and the S II has a rear casing made of plastic. There are benefits to the S II as well such as a larger screen (if that is your preference), better front camera and removable battery. I don't think that 4G/HSPA+ is a clear benefit to customers considering that real world speeds aren't what is stated by Apple or Samsung and it it is still not widespread.
- ZeroGravitas 15y agoWhy do you think you could easily argue that the A5 is vastly superior to the Exnyos?
- technoslut 15y agoThe Galaxy S II’s processor/GPU combo is the fastest in the mobile industry according to Anandtech with the major difference being the A5 with the SGX-543. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-f... In terms of performance, the Mali-400 MP is only slightly behind the PowerVR SGX543MP2. The only major performance difference is the A5.
- ZeroGravitas 15y agoThey said that it was the best GPU in smartphones. The processor shouldn't be radically different from any other dual A9 at the same clock speed and I'm guessing that the one in the iPhone 4S is a slower clockspeed. As for the GPU, that again will depend on what speed it is run at. There was speculation that the iPhone 4S would lose one GPU core compared with the iPad 2. It appears to have both from what information is available, but speed hasn't been specified. They may have lowered it for heat or battery reasons. Even if you allow Apple all the benefits of the doubt here, I'm not sure it mounts up to easily arguing that it's vastly superior, "has a slower CPU, less RAM (guessing, sort-of) and a better GPU" maybe.
- lookelsewhere 15y agoOne thing I do wonder about is how the Galaxy S II's cpu matches up with the A5 after an overclock. That's one of the greatest things I love about Android. You have direct control over how fast you want your device to be provided you have a custom firmware installed.
- mambodog 15y agoThe average person doesn't care about any of this stuff.
- jsnk 15y agoYou are spot on. Samsung has built a better phone, Apple is better at making people think that they built a better phone.
- dhughes 15y agoCreepy though to see how effective Apple marketing can be. 4.3" screen (the Fusion edit: make that "Infuse" is 4.5") versus 3.5" screen is a massive difference. Apple pushes Facetime yet Samsung SGII has front camera with 2MP 1920x1080 versus the iPhone at VGA 640x480 (.3MP) Vlingo is pretty darn good too. Although Android has to fix stuff like this http://i.imgur.com/mGwxD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mGwxD.jpg
- ugh 15y agoWhy do you think that a larger screen is objectivly better? It's all about personal preference. I despise those phones with large screens.
- dhughes 15y agoSure it's personal preference but the trend seems to be moving towards larger screens on smartphones in fact doesn't the very definition of a smartphone mean it has a large screen? If it's a smartphone I would say it's main purpose is to view websites and use apps such as Facetime or equivalent which would be uncomfortable on a small fuzzy screen. Some day we get the roll-up displays and have scroll like phones with large folding/roll-up screens.
- ugh 15y agoIt's about compromise. A smartphone with a one inch screen would be an obviously stupid idea, as would a smartphone with a ten inch screen. Seen that way "bigger is better" or "smaller is better" doesn't even make sense. My claim is: 3.5 inch screens are a good compromise, allowing for comfortable browsing, reading and writing. The additional screen space would never be worth the additional bulk (also: uncomfortable one hand use) for me. That's all about personal preference.
- bobbles 15y agoYes because we all know right now that the millions of users of iPhones use them because of the hardware inside. /s
- joejohnson 15y agoAlso, the Samsung phones come with nice carrier logos on the face. Classy.
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- sjwright 15y agoHow is it that Apple seem to be the only ones with the balls to say no to carrier logos?
- technoslut 15y agoI'm surprised this has been upvoted so highly considering it's just marketing propaganda with selective data compiled by Samsung.
- kumarm 15y agoIsn't entire AAPL event the same though?
- technoslut 15y agoOf course it is. That doesn't mean the stats Apple pushes should make it to the front page of Hacker News either.
- jorkos 15y agoI like the 'only app store' part as if that's a bad thing
- 54mf 15y agoAlso, no mention of the number of available apps. Samsung has more app stores, and far fewer apps.
- funkah 15y agoAh yes, the good old feature checklist comparison. Because that tells a customer so much about what it's actually like to use the thing they're buying. Strange how customer-satisfaction rates (or anything of the like) don't show up in these comparison charts -- too squishy, I guess. And really, who cares whether people actually like using this thing? It's got a Super AMOLED Plus display, dangit!
- ZeroGravitas 15y agoSome slides you may have missed from the recent iPhone 4S reveal: iPhone 4S vs download speeds: http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/10/04/speeds.jpg http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/10/04/speeds.jpg and iPhone 4S camera response speeds: http://www.thewwwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/iphone-4s-camera-comparison.jpg http://www.thewwwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/iphone-... Apple is all about the specs when it thinks it can win, and when it cant (like the 4G downloads or the classic Altivec bake-offs with Photoshop) it's not beneath cooking up ridiculously misleading nonsense to use for spec-whoring.
- wvenable 15y agoDownload speeds and camera response speeds aren't really tech specs. It's the difference between the gigahertz of your process vs. how fast you can launch an app. One is a spec, the other is a measurement. One gives the user an idea of what the experience will be.
- ZeroGravitas 15y agoEven if we accept your argument about what is a spec and what is not, the download numbers seem obviously cooked and don't reflect actual speeds experienced by users but theoretical limits that your are unlikely to ever see for various reasons. And I've read that people are having trouble replicating the photo speed numbers, so we'll have to see exactly what circumstances lead to these numbers. Apple's benchmarks have never been very fair (not that they're alone in that as far as marketing goes) so I'd rather see independent confirmation before taking anything they say in a keynote as gospel.
- S_A_P 15y agoSo that chart is the same chart as posted in "androidguys" blog. I dont think Samsung would highlight carrier differences as an "advantage". Maybe someone more enlightened than I can tell me if max download speed is a relevant comparison tool. I rarely if ever even approach the maximum 3G limit on my iPhone due to AT&Ts network, and I don't think any phone network has the capacity to truly serve up these max speeds consistently. Maybe Im being cynical here, but I dont know that I would want that much speed since it would just encourage me to hit my bandwidth cap more quickly...
- avolcano 15y agoThis is a great example of what's wrong with Android marketing. Most consumers are not interested in checklists, comparisons, "anything you can do I can do better!" Consumers are interested in apps. Services. Angry Birds. iTunes. Status. Style. Just look at some of these. "Can be used as HDTV remote control." "microSD slot." "Content Stores." These don't matter to the average person. They may matter to you or me, sure - I certainly envy a handful of Android features - but they do not matter to most people. And that's the biggest flaw in high-end Android phones, and why they don't take away iOS market share in the high end, only replace dumbphones in the low end. This, by the way, is why the Droid is the only Android phone brand that has been impressed on the average users. They had the standout commercials, and as weirdly overproduced as they were, it worked far better than the average feature checklist, announcer spouting off stats, or comparison chart. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts when it comes to smart phones. Comparisons like this miss the big picture.
- mberning 15y agoAnd they never, ever highlight any qualitative differences. Such as 'can actually scroll through pictures and contacts smoothly', 'pinch to zoom doesn't haphazardly move you to a different part of the webpage', etc.
- avolcano 15y agoExactly! And you know, the newer Android phones I've used are far smoother than they used to be, but you still don't see that in the ads. I think a big deal about the iPhone ads that just show someone using it is that it creates this image of "responsiveness" - something that is especially attractive to those using dumbphones with resistive touchscreens. Android hasn't made any strides in that; manufacturers are too busy spouting off numbers.
- juliano_q 15y agoI agree that this is the problem with this specific article. But I don't think Android in the current state lacks anything to the iPhone. There are zillions of great apps in the Market. The evidence that the Samsung Galaxy S series are selling a lot proves that high-end Android phones are going very well.
- metatronscube 15y agoUnless it runs IOS I don't care about specs like that. Its all about the overall experience, applications and support.
- philipDS 15y agoSorry, but it's not (only) about the hardware. I own an Android phone and I'd trade it for an iPhone any day (no money atm though).
- lomegor 15y agoI think this chart is completely wrong. Of course, it's a marketing thing, but anyway. It doesn't even highlight the sections where the iPhone 4S is better. Either way, I do believe the Galaxy S II is better than the iPhone 4S, and although I think fanbois don't care about these stuff, things such as microSD slot, 4G, weight and price matter to most people; maybe they don't care about the other technical mumbo jumbo. And, please, Kies SUCKS!
- gte910h 15y agoI love how the battery comparison doesn't look at using the internet...
- ootachi 15y agoLess space than a nomad. Lame.
- fleitz 15y agoSamsung has done an amazing job porting KDE 2 to a mobile phone.
- teilo 15y agoSpeaking as someone who has used both extensively, anyone who says they prefer Samsung's Super AMOLED to Apple's Retina has been paid to say that. Seriously, there is no comparison. Retina is brighter and crisper, and in bright sunlight both are bad. The only edge AMOLED has is in battery life.
- koffiezet 15y agoThe Samsung Galaxy S2's display "pro" is battery life? Does not reflect real-life use then... Small thing that happened today: a collegue of mine happens to have an S2, and he had to charge his today at 3PM. I gave him a strange look and asked if he had charged him over-night. "Yea sure". Then I asked him what he had done with his phone today, I wanted to compare his usage with mine, which was imo an average use. This was my iPhone 4's activity up to that point: 1) In the car: connected to the car-kit with Bluetooth, making 1 call of about 5 minutes 2) In the car: connected with a cable to the car-radio playing music for about 40 minuted. Since the car-radio kit was only intended for old iPods, this causes the display to be constant "on" while playing music, and displaying "charging not supported with this accessory". 3) Calling about 30 minutes in the office 4) Sending about 20 texts 5) Receiving about 50 texts (some servers went down and spammed my phone) 6) Playing music using my earbuds for about an hour. 7) Checked twitter and facebook when I got a notification 8) Played one Planets vs Zombies level. 9) Installing Infinity Blade and 5 other smaller app updates from the appstore over WiFi (Infinity blade alone is 500mb+) My battery level now, about 3,5h after he had to charge his phone: 65%. Now his answer was: 1) a 5 minute call 2) and sending/receiving about 10 texts in total. 3) 5 minutes of checking the news in the browser during lunch. 4) Searching and installing a small app on the Android market and playing with it for a few minutes. I almost couldn't believe this, so asked him about a carkit? No. Music in car? No. Music at the office? No. He then made it worse by mentioning he had a "battery improvement" app installed, which he claimed helped a lot, and that he had bluetooth and wifi disabled. Certainly the wifi struck me as odd, but he explained he had a 2gb/month data contract, so he didn't really care, and enabled his wifi manually when he thought it was needed. We both started the day at 100%. Ok, so he did start his day about 1h earlier than me, but still, it should at least make it through the day with that little useage? So yea, apparently, the AMOLED really helps to improve the battery life...
- 54mf 15y agoWhat a joke. I could probably poke holes in just about every item they listed, but emphasizing the fact that the Galaxy S II has a larger screen while failing to note that the important metric - DPI - is worse is what really kills me. I guess they must feel awful about how superior iPad 2's screen it to the Tab: it's a whole 3 inches bigger!
- iam 15y agoBut why do they keep putting in a smaller 800x480 resolution screen?
- ZeroGravitas 15y agoThe phone is six months old, the one's they are releasing in the next month don't have that resolution. They have 1280x720 (RGBG pentile) instead.