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(Disclaimer: Fedora user here) Do you happen to know a couple of examples for differences in the relevant repositories? I mean - I agree that they are probably

(Disclaimer: Fedora user here) Do you happen to know a couple of examples for differences in the relevant repositories? I mean - I agree that they are probably not equal and w/o checking I'd even agree that probably Debian + Ubuntu + PPA > Fedora in terms of numbers. But I've yet to stumble upon a problem. apt-get (did you mean aptitude? What's the difference?) and yum are ~comparable~ for most use cases. End users probably care more about a decent UI instead of the underlying package format. One point for Ubuntu here, the 'Store' thing looks nifty. Community is too broad to comment. Look at the fedoraproject site, there seem to be lots of passionate people over there (no clue, I tend to live on my own island here). "Fit and polish" is where you lost me. This is just too subjective a claim to make. So - up until this point I'd say "Both are the same". Now I happen to use Fedora. Why? - I was turned off by Ubuntu's polish in the past. Purely personal and matter of taste: * Most early themes (brown? really?) * Crappy release names * A 'better than Debian/the rest' attitude (regarding backports, crying for an 'Ubuntu' SO subsite instead of a 'Linux' one etc..) - I disliked design decisions * Multiple patches (most famous: The notification area) to Gnome just didn't sit right with me. I wanted a "vanilla" Gnome experience * Now: Creating an in-house shell replacement that disconnects Ubuntu from all the rest. * Future: Wayland, pressed forward instead of offering it and letting competition decide if it's a project worth looking at

sapphirecat 15y ago
> apt-get (did you mean aptitude? What's the difference?) aptitude is a TUI front-end for apt-get (which is to yum as dpkg is to rpm). synaptic and the Ubuntu Store are GUIs into the same system, though I think the store is further layered over aptdaemon and/or PackageKit. (I don't use the store much, since I'm used to synaptic, so I'm foggy on the details there. At any rate, the store UI isn't blocked while installs progress.)
- sciurus 15y ago
  aptitude also has a CLI. For a while it was recommended over apt-get/apt-cache/apt-file because it tracked packages that were installed only in order to satisfy dependencies and let you automatically remove them when you uninstalled the package that needed them. However, now apt-get does that too.
  - disgruntledphd2 15y ago
    You can search for a name with aptitude, whereas you can't with apt-get. Thats why I prefer the former anyway.
hactually 15y ago
You can't moan at the guy for being subjective and then moan about your opinion on themes, release names, design decisions. Wayland will come to Fedora as well as Ubuntu - an apt-get/yum install will no doubt provide that choice. I like fedora as it's got Gnome 3 as a default, it's an open development (rather than large code dumps chucked over the wall ala https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659693 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659693 ) and it's cutting edge/test bed for new stuff.
onosendai 15y ago
Fair enough, what I meant by "fit and polish" is the visual identity of Ubuntu, from the custom font, to the icons, color scheme and ultimately Unity. They don't meet everyone's personal taste, but I don't think anyone can argue that Canonical doesn't spend a lot of time and effort on this front.
- Rusky 15y ago
  This is one of the biggest reasons I use Ubuntu over Fedora- their font rendering patches and the custom font are so much nicer looking than anything I've been able to achieve in any other distribution (or even Windows), and they look that way by default.

sapphirecat 15y ago

> apt-get (did you mean aptitude? What's the difference?) aptitude is a TUI front-end for apt-get (which is to yum as dpkg is to rpm). synaptic and the Ubuntu Store are GUIs into the same system, though I think the store is further layered over aptdaemon and/or PackageKit. (I don't use the store much, since I'm used to synaptic, so I'm foggy on the details there. At any rate, the store UI isn't blocked while installs progress.)

sciurus 15y ago
aptitude also has a CLI. For a while it was recommended over apt-get/apt-cache/apt-file because it tracked packages that were installed only in order to satisfy dependencies and let you automatically remove them when you uninstalled the package that needed them. However, now apt-get does that too.
- disgruntledphd2 15y ago
  You can search for a name with aptitude, whereas you can't with apt-get. Thats why I prefer the former anyway.

hactually 15y ago

You can't moan at the guy for being subjective and then moan about your opinion on themes, release names, design decisions. Wayland will come to Fedora as well as Ubuntu - an apt-get/yum install will no doubt provide that choice. I like fedora as it's got Gnome 3 as a default, it's an open development (rather than large code dumps chucked over the wall ala https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659693 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659693 ) and it's cutting edge/test bed for new stuff.

onosendai 15y ago

Fair enough, what I meant by "fit and polish" is the visual identity of Ubuntu, from the custom font, to the icons, color scheme and ultimately Unity. They don't meet everyone's personal taste, but I don't think anyone can argue that Canonical doesn't spend a lot of time and effort on this front.

Rusky 15y ago
This is one of the biggest reasons I use Ubuntu over Fedora- their font rendering patches and the custom font are so much nicer looking than anything I've been able to achieve in any other distribution (or even Windows), and they look that way by default.