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Do you subscribe to anything on the internet? Perhaps Spotify, your internet connection, Netflix? Have you considered their premium offering, or do you think YT

Do you subscribe to anything on the internet? Perhaps Spotify, your internet connection, Netflix? Have you considered their premium offering, or do you think YT should be free and without ads?

DocG 5y ago
How does your comment help? YT premium still doesn't give all the Vance's features. I can buy premium and still use Vanced for features that YouTube does not offer. Or maybe I don't support YouTube adding ads to unmonetized videos? Or is it my way to fight back, how they roll over small creators to trolls?
- drusepth 5y ago
  I'd never heard of Vanced before today. What features did they offer that YT Premium doesn't?
  - spartanatreyu 5y ago
    Dislikes are a pretty big feature. Also sponsorblock which is a must for some people. And picture-in-picture mode was great. I could watch the news while seeing how close an uber was to me without having to switch apps.
    - charcircuit 5y ago
      btw the regular YouTube app has picture in picture. Without premium you can't use it on "music videos."
      - cft 5y ago
        Only from US IP addresses
    - namdnay 5y ago
      The sponsorblock seems pretty hypocritical: “I don’t want to give money to Google”… “Actually I don’t want to give money to creators either”
      - Majestic121 5y ago
        It does not seems hypocritical, because the original rationale is not "I don't want to give money to Google" but "I don't want to be subjected to ads" Whether the ads profit to Google or creators is irrelevant.
      - Nextgrid 5y ago
        There's about 10 sponsors that go over and over in the channels I watch. I've seen them all and am a customer of one (from long ago - so nothing to do with their YT sponsorship) already. Nobody benefits from wasting my time showing me products/brands I already know about and already made a decision to buy or not to buy.
        detaro 5y ago
        10 feels generous already.
      - kebab 5y ago
        There was already the option to scrub past it, this is just an automated system which does that for you. Really I think the sponsors know this, and put their money on targetting the market of people who are, for example, watching while eating.
  - dannyw 5y ago
    An actual pure black dark mode that’s perfect for OLEDs.
  - VPenkov 5y ago
    SponsorBlock would be one where it automagically skip ad segments that are a part of the videos. It also adds back the dislike counter. The article mentions custom swipe controls, swipe controls, and "codec features" which I'm not familiar with.
  - kozd 5y ago
    Getting rid of tiktock-est YouTube shorts or whatever they call it. Hated having that on my YouTube homepage and the official app doesn't let you remove it. YouTube Vanced does. I also pay for YouTube premium.
mindslight 5y ago
Personally, I avoid paying for things that could instead be provided by some appropriate software, as doing so encourages further proprietaryism. This includes services that corral communication into centralized silos. When proprietary middlemen attempt to force their desired paradigms onto us, the answer isn't to just give in and pay their Danegeld. Rather the solution is to build better software and communication infrastructure that won't get shut down by legal nastygrams.
MMS21 5y ago
Yes. Sent from a stolen laptop on my neighbors Wi-Fi
coolso 5y ago
I’m sure he’s considered it, but like many of us here, he refuses to voluntarily give Google a dime, for reasons that are obvious to most.
Nextgrid 5y ago
Most other services I subscribe to don't have the incentive and/or resources to be creepy and stalk me everywhere. They're happy to take my money, give me the product/service and leave it at that. YouTube's parent company both has the incentive and the resources. Giving them your real personal info (as required for payment processing) and some money on a silver platter is not an idea I'm comfortable with.

Do you subscribe to anything on the internet? Perhaps Spotify, your internet connection, Netflix? Have you considered their premium offering, or do you think YT should be free and without ads?

DocG 5y ago

How does your comment help? YT premium still doesn't give all the Vance's features. I can buy premium and still use Vanced for features that YouTube does not offer. Or maybe I don't support YouTube adding ads to unmonetized videos? Or is it my way to fight back, how they roll over small creators to trolls?

drusepth 5y ago
I'd never heard of Vanced before today. What features did they offer that YT Premium doesn't?
- spartanatreyu 5y ago
  Dislikes are a pretty big feature. Also sponsorblock which is a must for some people. And picture-in-picture mode was great. I could watch the news while seeing how close an uber was to me without having to switch apps.
  - charcircuit 5y ago
    btw the regular YouTube app has picture in picture. Without premium you can't use it on "music videos."
    - cft 5y ago
      Only from US IP addresses
  - namdnay 5y ago
    The sponsorblock seems pretty hypocritical: “I don’t want to give money to Google”… “Actually I don’t want to give money to creators either”
    - Majestic121 5y ago
      It does not seems hypocritical, because the original rationale is not "I don't want to give money to Google" but "I don't want to be subjected to ads" Whether the ads profit to Google or creators is irrelevant.
    - Nextgrid 5y ago
      There's about 10 sponsors that go over and over in the channels I watch. I've seen them all and am a customer of one (from long ago - so nothing to do with their YT sponsorship) already. Nobody benefits from wasting my time showing me products/brands I already know about and already made a decision to buy or not to buy.
      - detaro 5y ago
        10 feels generous already.
    - kebab 5y ago
      There was already the option to scrub past it, this is just an automated system which does that for you. Really I think the sponsors know this, and put their money on targetting the market of people who are, for example, watching while eating.
- dannyw 5y ago
  An actual pure black dark mode that’s perfect for OLEDs.
- VPenkov 5y ago
  SponsorBlock would be one where it automagically skip ad segments that are a part of the videos. It also adds back the dislike counter. The article mentions custom swipe controls, swipe controls, and "codec features" which I'm not familiar with.
- kozd 5y ago
  Getting rid of tiktock-est YouTube shorts or whatever they call it. Hated having that on my YouTube homepage and the official app doesn't let you remove it. YouTube Vanced does. I also pay for YouTube premium.

mindslight 5y ago

Personally, I avoid paying for things that could instead be provided by some appropriate software, as doing so encourages further proprietaryism. This includes services that corral communication into centralized silos. When proprietary middlemen attempt to force their desired paradigms onto us, the answer isn't to just give in and pay their Danegeld. Rather the solution is to build better software and communication infrastructure that won't get shut down by legal nastygrams.

MMS21 5y ago

Yes. Sent from a stolen laptop on my neighbors Wi-Fi

coolso 5y ago

I’m sure he’s considered it, but like many of us here, he refuses to voluntarily give Google a dime, for reasons that are obvious to most.

Nextgrid 5y ago

Most other services I subscribe to don't have the incentive and/or resources to be creepy and stalk me everywhere. They're happy to take my money, give me the product/service and leave it at that. YouTube's parent company both has the incentive and the resources. Giving them your real personal info (as required for payment processing) and some money on a silver platter is not an idea I'm comfortable with.