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No, they shouldn’t at this point. Especially in areas where everyone who wants to is vaccinated. Government-forced quarantine was only valid - if ever - at the
by mwint 5y ago
No, they shouldn’t at this point. Especially in areas where everyone who wants to is vaccinated.
Government-forced quarantine was only valid - if ever - at the beginnings of a disease where little was know. It’s not valid when we know the disease poses minimal threat to the majority of the population, and only slightly above minimal to a minority.
- jedberg 5y ago> Especially in areas where everyone who wants to is vaccinated. Right now that is nowhere in the world, because kids under 5 still can't get vaccinated.
- mmarq 5y agoWell, then I don’t want anybody who isn’t fully immunised against measles or meningococcus to get anywhere near my child
- jedberg 5y agoThe prevalence of those diseases is much lower than COVID right now, so your argument doesn't really work.
- mmarq 5y agoThey are also way more dangerous for a 5 month old baby.
- jedberg 5y agoOk then keep your five month old at home (that's what you want me to say right)? And now you want to say "then keep your four year old at home" But there is a huge difference between the socialization needs of a child under one (when they get their measles vaccine) and a child under five. Children between 3 and 5 go to pre-school and need to interact with people for their psychological well being. So it's on us as a society to make it safe for them to so. And meningococcus usually spreads through deep kissing, so as long as your infant is French kissing an infected adult it should be fine.
- mmarq 5y ago> Ok then keep your five month old at home (that's what you want me to say right)? And now you want to say "then keep your four year old at home" No, I am just going to say that now we have vaccines and treatments for covid, so we should treat it like other diseases. We don't quarantine people with measles, even though it is way more lethal and more contagious than covid.
- kadoban 5y ago> We don't quarantine people with measles, even though it is way more lethal and more contagious than covid. Yes, we do. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/17/executive-order-on-adding-measles-to-the-list-of-quarantinable-communicable-diseases/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-action...
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- mwint 5y agohttps://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3 https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-... indicates 347 Covid deaths in the 0-4yo category, since Jan 2020. Out of a population of around 16M in the US, ignoring churn in that category.
- jedberg 5y agoThat's nice, but we have no idea what the long term effects of COVID infection is on young children. We do know that in adults the long term effects are lessened when they are vaccinated, and we can assume the same in children. So it's still a valid concern.
- renewiltord 5y agoWe do not know about the long term effects of the MMR vaccine is either. Will kids who received it instantly die at the age of 60? We don’t actually know. Another valid concern. EDIT: To reply from jounker: “said the turkey before Thanksgiving”. I picked 60 intentionally. Past performance is not indicative of future returns. Etc. etc.
- jounker 5y agoI think after 50 years we have a pretty good idea of its safety.