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It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

by bobitsaboy 5y ago

kingkawn 5y ago
Except the point seems to be getting her to leave, not giving her a thoughtful way to stay.
- notatoad 5y ago
  coupled with the "we are a B2B solution" statement, i think they're trying to shake down patreon, not the individual creators - it sounds like vimeo wants patreon to start sending them money.
- apotheon 5y ago
  This also seems like a great way to get everyone to leave. If what I wanted was a B2B platform, I wouldn't choose one with a history of suddenly changing its policies and only giving one week to catch up. In fact, it's often much more difficult for a larger business to move that quickly than an independent user.
  - bobitsaboy 5y ago
    Bingo!
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  "We want you to leave" is a pretty ok thing for them to say. "You have a week to leave" is not. It's sleazy and unprofessional, and it's a signal that it's best for anyone to avoid them in the future.
  - kingkawn 5y ago
    they probably don’t want to be known as forcing users out unilaterally, so a false offer becomes the diplomatic move, now backfiring from public exposure.
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    Depends on the contract in place. If they have a clause allowing termination in weeks time then it's entirely professional.
    - marcosdumay 5y ago
      If they negotiated that clause, yes, it's professional. If they hidden it there, no, it's not.
hannasanarion 5y ago
Tell that to Sunny Singh, the other Vimeo user who was featured in the Verge article, who did the math himself and had to admit that he was costing Vimeo $2500/yr.
- chockchocschoir 5y ago
  Are you talking about this? https://twitter.com/hate5six/status/1481511608979533826 https://twitter.com/hate5six/status/1481511608979533826 If so, he is not saying that he is costing Vimeo $2500/year, he is saying what amount of bandwidth he has "consumed"/"produced" from Vimeo, which for sure doesn't cost Vimeo $2500/year, as otherwise they would be bankrupt by now. They pay static sums for the internet connection, no TB/$ crap that people using cloud are used to.
- ryanbrunner 5y ago
  A customer shouldn't really need to concern themselves with the profitability of a service provider though. The price Vimeo demanding is reasonable - what's not reasonable is hiding that prices could increase, and being basically as opaque as possible about the conditions to trigger that increase and what the increased cost was.
- computer23 5y ago
  Your comment is false. Singh did an analysis and used the analysis to negotiate to a $2,500/year rate. He didn't "admit" anything about what it could be costing Vimeo.

It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

kingkawn 5y ago

Except the point seems to be getting her to leave, not giving her a thoughtful way to stay.

notatoad 5y ago
coupled with the "we are a B2B solution" statement, i think they're trying to shake down patreon, not the individual creators - it sounds like vimeo wants patreon to start sending them money.
apotheon 5y ago
This also seems like a great way to get everyone to leave. If what I wanted was a B2B platform, I wouldn't choose one with a history of suddenly changing its policies and only giving one week to catch up. In fact, it's often much more difficult for a larger business to move that quickly than an independent user.
- bobitsaboy 5y ago
  Bingo!
marcosdumay 5y ago
"We want you to leave" is a pretty ok thing for them to say. "You have a week to leave" is not. It's sleazy and unprofessional, and it's a signal that it's best for anyone to avoid them in the future.
- kingkawn 5y ago
  they probably don’t want to be known as forcing users out unilaterally, so a false offer becomes the diplomatic move, now backfiring from public exposure.
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Depends on the contract in place. If they have a clause allowing termination in weeks time then it's entirely professional.
  - marcosdumay 5y ago
    If they negotiated that clause, yes, it's professional. If they hidden it there, no, it's not.

hannasanarion 5y ago

Tell that to Sunny Singh, the other Vimeo user who was featured in the Verge article, who did the math himself and had to admit that he was costing Vimeo $2500/yr.

chockchocschoir 5y ago
Are you talking about this? https://twitter.com/hate5six/status/1481511608979533826 https://twitter.com/hate5six/status/1481511608979533826 If so, he is not saying that he is costing Vimeo $2500/year, he is saying what amount of bandwidth he has "consumed"/"produced" from Vimeo, which for sure doesn't cost Vimeo $2500/year, as otherwise they would be bankrupt by now. They pay static sums for the internet connection, no TB/$ crap that people using cloud are used to.
ryanbrunner 5y ago
A customer shouldn't really need to concern themselves with the profitability of a service provider though. The price Vimeo demanding is reasonable - what's not reasonable is hiding that prices could increase, and being basically as opaque as possible about the conditions to trigger that increase and what the increased cost was.
computer23 5y ago
Your comment is false. Singh did an analysis and used the analysis to negotiate to a $2,500/year rate. He didn't "admit" anything about what it could be costing Vimeo.