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One frosty, completely still morning in Brooklyn, a white panel truck had been idling on our corner for 20 minutes. I walked out to find diesel fumes hanging, h
by ericbarrett 5y ago
One frosty, completely still morning in Brooklyn, a white panel truck had been idling on our corner for 20 minutes. I walked out to find diesel fumes hanging, head-high, like some kind of haunted house fog, for a block in every direction. I fully support this law, citizen reporting and all—diesel soot kills. Turn your engine off.
- slenk 5y agoWill you at least acknowledge this trend of citizens reporting citizens is a dangerous trend?
- sa46 5y agoI suspect the overwhelming majority of crime reporting is citizens reporting other citizens, i.e. calling 911.
- mobiclick 5y agoThe problem here is offering monetary incentives. Purposefully or not, I'm sure judges would hand out a lot more fines if they got a cut out of it.
- notch656a 5y agoI can't wait until all the idling police officers, political figures, and the very people collecting the fines get drained dry by people calling. They want people to rat out people idling, lets start with government officials. Every single one of them should be ratted out at every possible opportunity before we out the general populace.
- slenk 5y agoAs mentioned below, its the monetary incentive that bothers me. I wasn't very clear, my bad.
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- darkteflon 5y agoMe too, 100%. I wish they’d introduce something like it here in Tokyo. The walk to my kid’s school every morning drives me crazy. This isn’t going to change unless we set the right incentives. For the people in this thread worried about violence against the reporter, I think it much more likely that drivers will simply get the message and turn off their damn engines.
- Benjammer 5y ago>For the people in this thread worried about violence against the reporter, I think it much more likely that drivers will simply get the message and turn off their damn engines. You obviously haven't tried to ask a delivery driver in NYC why their truck is running... I have done it several times in the east village, and got nasty looks and angry responses every time. I wasn't even recording or anything, just walked out of my door and said "hey man, any reason you have to run your truck right now?" And I'm also a 6 foot, not-skinny, guy.
- tjr225 5y agoI drive a 30 y/o diesel van and if I don’t warm it up for a while in the morning it runs like shit/dies. I had to explain this to a lady while I was loading it up for volunteer food delivery once. Probably doesn’t apply to most vehicles though.
- TheSpiceIsLife 5y agoI work in steel fabrication / construction, the idea of 'engines off inside' hasn't caught on in Tasmania in the industry. When I was in Adelaide circa ten to fifteen years ago I recall the local food and beverage manufacturers all had signs to the effect 'strictly engines off inside'. Nothing worse than a workshop full of diesel soot, though the exhaust urea fluid (AdBlue) in the newer trucks does give it a distinctively more breathable aroma, so there's that. Very annoying.
- forum_ghost 5y agoParticularly good film on citizen reporting and where it can take you: Utopia. 15 min, full film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8
- sebmellen 5y agoDoes this mean you’re also in favor of abolishing long-established programs like the SEC Whistleblower Program [0]? [0]: https://www.sec.gov/whistleblower https://www.sec.gov/whistleblower
- TimWillebrands 5y agoI don't know that law, but do whistle-blowers get a cut of the fine? Otherwise this is a rather far fetched comparison, no?
- sebmellen 5y agoYes, they do! Check the link!!!! More than $1 Billion (with a B) has been awarded.
- forum_ghost 5y agoThat's all you got out of this film?
- _Nat_ 5y agoWhat's that video supposed to be? I mean, it's just constant non-sense. For example: 1. The guy is apparently completely unaware of the laws of his home-country, comically confused about everything. 2. Apparently he entered the country without exchanging his money for the local-system, then is constantly confused that his money doesn't work. 3. Apparently it's highly illegal to pay other peoples' fines (why?), but instead of just declining such illegal payments, it accepts them (why?), then sets off all sorts of dramatic alarms. 4. Unpaid fines stop peoples' cars instantly, even while driving down the road. 5. The last scene shows prisoners relaxing, sipping wine from wine-glasses. Even though they're prisoners, in a country where alcohol's illegal.
- not_a_shill 5y agoI would think the social discontent is more harmful to society than the excess diesel soot itself. I imagine if I were in the position of a broke truck driver trying to get by I would see the guy trying to take money out of my pocket as more of an existential threat than soot.
- noahtallen 5y agoBut it’s not soot, it’s poison. Is there a legitimate reason for the driver to leave the truck idling?
- not_a_shill 5y agoI don't think the distinction between soot and poison really changes the willingness of someone to physically attack a snitch. As for legitimate reasons to leave it idle, I have no idea.
- sgjohnson 5y ago> As for legitimate reasons to leave it idle, I have no idea. Air conditioning/heating
- Godel_unicode 5y agoIf you get in and out of the cab all day, wear more clothes. That's what I did, worked great. In the summer it's just not that big a deal, you're sweating in every other part of the job anyway. Roll the windows down maybe. If you're talking about the cargo, the insulation will easily keep up over an hour or two plus of being stopped.
- NullPrefix 5y agoDriving with frosted up windows is not safe
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- siruncledrew 5y agoPeople do this for so long too. Sometimes nearly an hour will pass and someone’s car/truck/van will just be sitting double-parked or in some other non-parking spot with the engine running and blinkers flashing. It’s like dude… this isn’t some secret loophole to getting to park somewhere that’s not allowed because another place is inconvenient.
- ashwagary 5y ago>One frosty, completely still morning in Brooklyn You realize some people have to warm up vehicles on extremely cold days by letting them idle for 5-15 minutes. How are they supposed to accomplish this now? Article has a js paywall so I'm unable to read if there is an exception.
- lostdog 5y agoWhy do you feel entitled to idle your vehicle where it's bothering dozens of people? It sounds a lot like you have a problem with your vehicle and should deal with it.
- wowokay 5y agoBy this logic what is wrong with all those people getting up early and driving to work, don’t they know some of us don’t have a job! Where do they get off?
- hannasanarion 5y agoOn the bus or train. There's no reason that anyone should need to use a personal car for commuting inside urban areas.
- ashwagary 5y ago>There's no reason that anyone should need to use a personal car for commuting inside urban areas. This ignores every laborer that requires heavy tools to complete their daily task. The people that keep your buildings and homes comfortable, for example, can easily have hundreds of pounds of tools.
- notch656a 5y agoLol you think this was written by someone who depends on moving heavy tools for their daily job? The fact this was completely overlooked, by someone so removed from the commoner as to not even realize the common man often needs a truck full of tools as part of their commute, tells you all you need to know about the perspective of this viewpoint.