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>It also now allows someone who is in a car stopped by police or is being questioned to tape the encounter *and limits the scope of the types of police actions

by 34679 5y ago

>It also now allows someone who is in a car stopped by police or is being questioned to tape the encounter *and limits the scope of the types of police actions that trigger the law to only those that are possibly dangerous.* I've read that several times, and I think they're saying you can't record the encounter if it's not dangerous? Of course, the police would say there was never any danger, as they're there "to protect and serve".

eweise 5y ago
You can't record if the situation is dangerous
throwawaycities 5y ago
> I've read that several times, and I think they're saying you can't record the encounter if it's not dangerous? It’s poorly worded. The law is to be limited in its application by the police officers to situations they deem dangerous. In other words don’t ask people not to record within 8ft of an interaction/arrest unless it’s a potentially dangerous.
- LordDragonfang 5y ago
  >The law is to be limited in its application by the police officers to situations they deem dangerous. Considering one of the current complaints against police is poor discretion as to what counts as a "dangerous situation" (e.g. going for lethal force against unarmed citizens), that seems intentionally rife with opportunities for abuse.
  - throwawaycities 5y ago
    > that seems intentionally rife with opportunities for abuse. Lets say you are <8ft away recording an officer interaction or arrest that isn’t particularly dangerous and another officer asks you to stand at least 8ft back for safety, and you comply even though you don’t think the situation is potentially dangerous, the harm isn’t all that great so the potential for abuse is minimal. If the officer decides to fine you, you have video for your defense if it helps prove it really wasn’t a dangerous situation, so the potential for abusing discretion is there, but once again the harm is minimal.
schrectacular 5y ago
Dangerous encounters trigger the law which prohibits filming up close.
- chaboud 5y ago
  So if they start beating you, you have to stop filming? (Kidding... Kind of) I can't see how this could reasonably constitutionally hold, but that rarely stops legislators.
__s 5y ago
Catch-22. You should only film them if you're in danger, & you're not in danger if they're being filmed, but if you're filming then you're not in danger, so you shouldn't film them, but then you feel in danger because they won't let you film, so then you can film, but now you're not in danger, so you can't film

by 34679 5y ago

eweise 5y ago

You can't record if the situation is dangerous

throwawaycities 5y ago

> I've read that several times, and I think they're saying you can't record the encounter if it's not dangerous? It’s poorly worded. The law is to be limited in its application by the police officers to situations they deem dangerous. In other words don’t ask people not to record within 8ft of an interaction/arrest unless it’s a potentially dangerous.

LordDragonfang 5y ago
>The law is to be limited in its application by the police officers to situations they deem dangerous. Considering one of the current complaints against police is poor discretion as to what counts as a "dangerous situation" (e.g. going for lethal force against unarmed citizens), that seems intentionally rife with opportunities for abuse.
- throwawaycities 5y ago
  > that seems intentionally rife with opportunities for abuse. Lets say you are <8ft away recording an officer interaction or arrest that isn’t particularly dangerous and another officer asks you to stand at least 8ft back for safety, and you comply even though you don’t think the situation is potentially dangerous, the harm isn’t all that great so the potential for abuse is minimal. If the officer decides to fine you, you have video for your defense if it helps prove it really wasn’t a dangerous situation, so the potential for abusing discretion is there, but once again the harm is minimal.

schrectacular 5y ago

Dangerous encounters trigger the law which prohibits filming up close.

chaboud 5y ago
So if they start beating you, you have to stop filming? (Kidding... Kind of) I can't see how this could reasonably constitutionally hold, but that rarely stops legislators.

__s 5y ago

Catch-22. You should only film them if you're in danger, & you're not in danger if they're being filmed, but if you're filming then you're not in danger, so you shouldn't film them, but then you feel in danger because they won't let you film, so then you can film, but now you're not in danger, so you can't film