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What about volunteer work? Has that been banned?

Ansil849 5y ago
Volunteers are exempted from minimum wage requirements. But there is nothing in this job posting indicating that this is for a volunteer position.
- j4yav 5y ago
  Isn’t that clear from that it is unpaid?
  - jonnycomputer 5y ago
    Funny thing about the law right? Even beef, raised outside the US can be called American Beef if processed here.
- Aeolun 5y ago
  By definition, I think working without compensation is volunteering? If you pay someone more than $0, that’s when you need to pay them at least minimum wage.
  - Ansil849 5y ago
    So an interesting caveat to this apparently is [1]: > FLSA prohibits public sector employees from volunteering, without compensation, to work additional time performing the same type of services or work for which they are employed. For example, a police officer can properly be considered a volunteer, and need not be paid, for reading to school children at the municipal library. The same officer must be paid, however, and cannot be considered a volunteer, when directing traffic for a city-sponsored road race in the same municipality where the police officer is employed. So I guess if you already have a position in another state school, you apparently can't take this one. [1] https://www.wardandsmith.com/articles/wage-hour-law-volunteers-interns https://www.wardandsmith.com/articles/wage-hour-law-voluntee...
- IncRnd 5y ago
  > But there is nothing in this job posting indicating that this is for a volunteer position. This position is unpaid at a public not private employer. In this case the commonly understood meaning of "volunteer" is likely the same as the legal one.
- fivea 5y ago
  > Volunteers are exempted from minimum wage requirements. But there is nothing in this job posting indicating that this is for a volunteer position. The "without salary basis" looks pretty clear to me, and I'm sure someone holding a PhD could spot that as well.

Volunteers are exempted from minimum wage requirements. But there is nothing in this job posting indicating that this is for a volunteer position.

j4yav 5y ago
Isn’t that clear from that it is unpaid?
- jonnycomputer 5y ago
  Funny thing about the law right? Even beef, raised outside the US can be called American Beef if processed here.
Aeolun 5y ago
By definition, I think working without compensation is volunteering? If you pay someone more than $0, that’s when you need to pay them at least minimum wage.
- Ansil849 5y ago
  So an interesting caveat to this apparently is [1]: > FLSA prohibits public sector employees from volunteering, without compensation, to work additional time performing the same type of services or work for which they are employed. For example, a police officer can properly be considered a volunteer, and need not be paid, for reading to school children at the municipal library. The same officer must be paid, however, and cannot be considered a volunteer, when directing traffic for a city-sponsored road race in the same municipality where the police officer is employed. So I guess if you already have a position in another state school, you apparently can't take this one. [1] https://www.wardandsmith.com/articles/wage-hour-law-volunteers-interns https://www.wardandsmith.com/articles/wage-hour-law-voluntee...
IncRnd 5y ago
> But there is nothing in this job posting indicating that this is for a volunteer position. This position is unpaid at a public not private employer. In this case the commonly understood meaning of "volunteer" is likely the same as the legal one.
fivea 5y ago
> Volunteers are exempted from minimum wage requirements. But there is nothing in this job posting indicating that this is for a volunteer position. The "without salary basis" looks pretty clear to me, and I'm sure someone holding a PhD could spot that as well.