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If you have a Bloomberg terminal, you can look up the corresponding total return indices. German DAX is a rare example of a total return index IIRC. I don't th

If you have a Bloomberg terminal, you can look up the corresponding total return indices. German DAX is a rare example of a total return index IIRC. I don't think it changes his conclusions much, the indices can easily fluctuate by more than what you bank in dividends.

vishnugupta 5y ago
> If you have a Bloomberg terminal Sorry, but I must point out that if you have access to Bloomberg terminal then it almost certainly implies that your full time job is market research & investment. A Bloomberg terminal costs between $20K - $24K per year.
- lordnacho 5y ago
  Or you could be a university student, they sponsor terminals.
- gruez 5y ago
  you can also search "total return" for the ticker, eg. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=SPY+total+return https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=SPY+tot...
- twobitshifter 5y ago
  Many large university libraries will have a terminal if you know who to ask and where to look.
dhosek 5y ago
Whenever I hear the words “Bloomberg terminal” I get a mental image of a VT-series CRT and keyboard connected to a distant mainframe sitting off to the side of a room full of traders with men in suits waiting their turn to type in their queries. I’ve assumed that it’s actually just software these days but it turns out that it also requires a specialized keyboard (which includes biometric authorization based on my quick skim of the webpage). It’s apparently $2000/month which is probably reasonable for those who need it and also a clear indication that I don't need it.
- atombender 5y ago
  A Bloomberg terminal runs a full-fledged GUI app [1]. It's true that it's very keyboard-focused (with terse text commands and shortcuts for everything), and most of us probably wouldn't describe it as flashy or even modern, but it's not a text mode terminal in the sense you're describing. The core functionality — trading, charts, financial data, news — that the Bloomberg terminal provides traders is also available from places like Schwab (StreetSmart), TD America (ThinkOrSwim), and so on, but the Bloomberg terminal is just a lot more stuff. Interestingly, one of the things that apparently add the most value (and which competitors struggle to disrupt) is the social networking built in that allows traders to chat and gossip with each. [1] https://youtu.be/2ee-x6IXWK8 https://youtu.be/2ee-x6IXWK8
brodo 5y ago
All accumulating ETFs track total return indices. They are not usually talked about so much, but all index providers have provide total return indices.
jslaby 5y ago
Hey, no one make a call! I'm going to log in to the Bloomberg terminal.

vishnugupta 5y ago

> If you have a Bloomberg terminal Sorry, but I must point out that if you have access to Bloomberg terminal then it almost certainly implies that your full time job is market research & investment. A Bloomberg terminal costs between $20K - $24K per year.

lordnacho 5y ago
Or you could be a university student, they sponsor terminals.
gruez 5y ago
you can also search "total return" for the ticker, eg. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=SPY+total+return https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=SPY+tot...
twobitshifter 5y ago
Many large university libraries will have a terminal if you know who to ask and where to look.

dhosek 5y ago

Whenever I hear the words “Bloomberg terminal” I get a mental image of a VT-series CRT and keyboard connected to a distant mainframe sitting off to the side of a room full of traders with men in suits waiting their turn to type in their queries. I’ve assumed that it’s actually just software these days but it turns out that it also requires a specialized keyboard (which includes biometric authorization based on my quick skim of the webpage). It’s apparently $2000/month which is probably reasonable for those who need it and also a clear indication that I don't need it.

atombender 5y ago
A Bloomberg terminal runs a full-fledged GUI app [1]. It's true that it's very keyboard-focused (with terse text commands and shortcuts for everything), and most of us probably wouldn't describe it as flashy or even modern, but it's not a text mode terminal in the sense you're describing. The core functionality — trading, charts, financial data, news — that the Bloomberg terminal provides traders is also available from places like Schwab (StreetSmart), TD America (ThinkOrSwim), and so on, but the Bloomberg terminal is just a lot more stuff. Interestingly, one of the things that apparently add the most value (and which competitors struggle to disrupt) is the social networking built in that allows traders to chat and gossip with each. [1] https://youtu.be/2ee-x6IXWK8 https://youtu.be/2ee-x6IXWK8

brodo 5y ago

All accumulating ETFs track total return indices. They are not usually talked about so much, but all index providers have provide total return indices.

jslaby 5y ago

Hey, no one make a call! I'm going to log in to the Bloomberg terminal.