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Are you sure? Is Russian that start Ukrainian war or are nazi's militias formed, armed and trained by the west? I'm asking, really, because the 2014 Euromaidan
by kkfx 5y ago
Are you sure? Is Russian that start Ukrainian war or are nazi's militias formed, armed and trained by the west? I'm asking, really, because the 2014 Euromaidan massacre against Russian-speaking Ukrainian's no one in the west have so far said was started by Russia... While many who know history know very well Yalta agreements post WWII about NATO expansion in the eastern Europe, violated from the start to divide Berlin, so to speak. Few also know historical ops by UK and USA like "Operation Unthinkable" and "Operation Dropshot" (see even Wikipedia) and their scope. Few also remember who want nazi's outside Germany, like a well known source of Russian propaganda named The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/trump-fdr-roosevelt-coup-attempt-1930s https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/trump-... the same JP Morgan company that in 2013 state south EU countries must withdraw their post WWII constitutions build to avoid a nazi/fascist renaissance... Not counting how nazi management/economic theory is close to modern neoliberal management/economic theory. Not counting land-grabbing also recent in Ukraine [1] or recent projects still active to detach Ukraine from Russian like the Ukrenergo project from 2017 [2] just to cite few pertinent examples, not counting the recent series of Austrian gov. scandals with the last few gov. liaisons with Ukraine nazis, you can start looking for the so called Ibiza Papers.
Also you can notice that Russia have actual reasons to justify their actions, while they are certainly not the moving reasons, USA have LIED about Saddam's mass-destruction weapons, have LIED about Afghanistan protection to osama bin laden etc so far the Russian have not lied publicly, only in Mali they state they were not there just few months ahead of French withdraw and while formally true that was a deliberate lie since they have sent Wagner mercenaries, following the same path of USA usage of Blackwaters and co. But Iraq and Afghanistan was (and still are) the formal war, Syria (started by France, but kept going by NATO like Libya), Somalia, are not formal but still war with big numbers of people suffering and NATO is involved certainly not for peace enforcing or peace keeping ops.
I'm from Italy, nephew of Italians partisans from WWII, I do know the history of WWII and I do know who are "nazi" and who are not enough to understand that putin is a dictator, but on the other side there are other dictators and putin is a dictator outside my country, some others are dictators inside so their are more "primary enemies" than him. Actually as a EU Citizens I feel all the right to accuse my governments of high treason since it act against us citizens, raping the reminiscence of Democracy we still have, raping the Constitution, for foreign interests to speak clear and loud. For me so far remaining in NATO means remaining in a criminal association against the people in general. Also I'm pretty convinced that USA and UK Citizens interests are NOT the interests their government have...
[1]
https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/yuri-polakiwsky-a-lend-lease-agreement-as-a-way-forward-for-ukraine/ https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/yuri-polakiwsky-a-lend-l...
https://archive.is/rXbiM https://archive.is/rXbiM
[2] https://ec.europa.eu/eu-external-investment-plan/projects/ukrenergo-integration-ukrainian-power-grid-continental-europe-synchronous-area-cesa_en https://ec.europa.eu/eu-external-investment-plan/projects/uk...
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2021/06/30/ukraines-power-infrastructure-integration-with-the-eu-power-grid-to-benefit-from-world-bank-support https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2021/06/30/u...
- orwin 5y agoYes, I'm sure. I actually a friend who used to live in Kyiv (now with his friends in Turkey, safe). And after a stint in the Ukrainian nightlife, he worked at a security company. He is visibly not Caucasian, and while he was confronted with more racism than in France, Ukraine is still less racist than Russia. Also, Zelenskyj wasn't invited to néonazi parties in Austria and wasn't used by European far right as an example and some kind of support. So yeah, Russia started 3 wars, the US 2. The agresser is clearly Russia.