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It's funny how people can disagree on pros / cons. For me it's: > - a single binary you can drop in ~/bin Well, a binary larger than quite some operating syst

It's funny how people can disagree on pros / cons. For me it's: > - a single binary you can drop in ~/bin Well, a binary larger than quite some operating systems. (And not even talking about the security issues with such an approach). > - native Linux version Well, it's as "native" as an Electron app as it'll execute native machine code at some point. ;-) Besides that it feels as "native" as an Electron app… The UX is much more important than the actual technology used, imho! > - really, really fast I didn't measure anything but at least it feels as fast as my "dumb desktop editor", which is Kate. Only that Kate is usable right now, and has in fact quite some features. The good parts: - Lapces packaging issue is solvable. - Rust is a fast language so I think Lapce won't become too slow as development progresses. But the no-native UX is an issue. It likely won't ever feel more "native" than any random Electron app; love it or hate it. But at least I'm looking forward to something like Slint GUI (which hopefully will feel native to my KDE Desktop once it'll be ready).

follower 5y ago
> Only that Kate is usable right now, and has in fact quite some features. There's dozen of us! :) As a matter of interest, have you managed to get a satisfactory Rust/LSP/Rust-Analyzer/Cargo setup running with your Kate install? (Also, Kate as an AppImage seems to be ~150-185MB as a data point for comparisons. (`libKF5TextEditor.so.5` is ~3.5MB.)) The whole "native UI" aspect is a reasonable discussion point but given I seem to be running GTK/Flatpak-based distros I despair of ever having something "native" that I also think is good. :D (Elementary OS at least got me close enough to finally mostly move away from Mac.) I do think native file dialog boxes are generally a nice addition as a halfway point.
- still_grokking 5y ago
  > As a matter of interest, have you managed to get a satisfactory Rust/LSP/Rust-Analyzer/Cargo setup running with your Kate install? Never tried. Like I said, Kate is my "dumb desktop editor". For coding I'm currently using VSC (and have still an IntelliJ install around, in case of). The AppImage size of Kate is just crazy! Didn't know. That's also not really acceptable. The package version is only 7 MB uncompressed… (And all the libs are shared as I'm using KDE anyway). Regarding the UX: Maybe I'm just lazy but I'm not keen on learning and remembering different details in how applications work. The "feel" in the 'look & feel' of an app is the most important thing. But as people here mentioned Lapce does not even handle clicks in an "usual" way. A native file dialog is just the tip of the things that should feel "native", imho.

follower 5y ago

> Only that Kate is usable right now, and has in fact quite some features. There's dozen of us! :) As a matter of interest, have you managed to get a satisfactory Rust/LSP/Rust-Analyzer/Cargo setup running with your Kate install? (Also, Kate as an AppImage seems to be ~150-185MB as a data point for comparisons. (`libKF5TextEditor.so.5` is ~3.5MB.)) The whole "native UI" aspect is a reasonable discussion point but given I seem to be running GTK/Flatpak-based distros I despair of ever having something "native" that I also think is good. :D (Elementary OS at least got me close enough to finally mostly move away from Mac.) I do think native file dialog boxes are generally a nice addition as a halfway point.

still_grokking 5y ago
> As a matter of interest, have you managed to get a satisfactory Rust/LSP/Rust-Analyzer/Cargo setup running with your Kate install? Never tried. Like I said, Kate is my "dumb desktop editor". For coding I'm currently using VSC (and have still an IntelliJ install around, in case of). The AppImage size of Kate is just crazy! Didn't know. That's also not really acceptable. The package version is only 7 MB uncompressed… (And all the libs are shared as I'm using KDE anyway). Regarding the UX: Maybe I'm just lazy but I'm not keen on learning and remembering different details in how applications work. The "feel" in the 'look & feel' of an app is the most important thing. But as people here mentioned Lapce does not even handle clicks in an "usual" way. A native file dialog is just the tip of the things that should feel "native", imho.