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Microsoft says Win11 Explorer ads were ‘not intended to be published externally’

49 points by weinzierl 5y ago

sschueller 5y ago
Why would you build such a thing if you didn't intend to use it?
- tuwtuwtuwtuw 5y ago
  It could have been intended to be reviewed internally but then somehow was made public by mistake in the insider builds. Where I work we write a lot of experimental features, behind feature flags which never end up being made available to customers. Could of course be that they are just making it up. If this was an actual mistake it sounds like their QA is messed up.
  - bluefirebrand 5y ago
    I have been vocal against use of feature flags at my workplace, partly because of the risk of accidentally putting a feature live in a production or other client-facing environment. Just this morning I got to ask "Why is this feature flag enabled in prod" to the stunned faces of people who had insisted that would never happen. Maybe the same thing played out at Microsoft here.
- daveslash 5y ago
  Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?
  - shaggie76 5y ago
    *It was to be announced at the party congress on Monday.*
belval 5y ago
My favorite conspiracy theory is that they do plan to add ads in the file explorer but only in 2-3 years. They leak it now so they get some flak but they just say "oh no we won't actually do it". Then when they actually roll it out people don't get as angry as the first time and they just leave it.
- lloydatkinson 5y ago
  Like when they said multiple times "Windows 10 is the last version of Windows as it will be a rolling release" and then pretended after they never said that in order to satisfy some product manager's desire to release a new version so they could add it to their resume.
  - shamiln 5y ago
    Did they actually say that?
    - CrazedGeek 5y ago
      Yes, but no. One of their developer evangelists said it on stage at a conference, but the company wouldn’t confirm it: https://www.pcworld.com/article/394724/why-is-there-a-windows-11-if-windows-10-is-the-last-windows.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/394724/why-is-there-a-window...
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    I suspect that changed once macOS went to version 11.
    - psyc 5y ago
      "Why don't we just make 10 better and make 10 be the last number and make that a little better?" "Theirs goes to 11."
- omgmajk 5y ago
  I think this is pretty true, it's not unheard of before anyways.
KONAir 5y ago
Meh, I can live with it if OS becomes free.
- fsflover 5y ago
  Linux is already free, so what's the problem?
  - paulryanrogers 5y ago
    Incompatibility, battery life, impossible number of combinations to support, need to use terminal, etc
    - fsflover 5y ago
      > Incompatibility, battery life Buy a computer with preinstalled Linux. Everything is fine on my Librem 15. Suspend works 100% of the time. > impossible number of combinations to support Support Ubuntu/Debian. It will be enough. Or Flatpak. > need to use terminal This is an obsolete information from the 90s.
      - paulryanrogers 5y ago
        > > need to use terminal > This is an obsolete information from the 90s. Except it's not in too many cases. Bluetooth, WiFi, multi-screen setups often devolve into terminal debugging sessions.
        fsflover 5y ago
        Never happened to me. External monitor, WiFi work fine. Bluetooth untested.
- SanchoPanda 5y ago
  This got me thinking that MS might actually be telling the truth here. Maybe they only plan to enable it for pirated copies.
nix23 5y ago
Oh it was just for the developers at microsoft..that makes sense ;)

49 points by weinzierl 5y ago

sschueller 5y ago

Why would you build such a thing if you didn't intend to use it?

tuwtuwtuwtuw 5y ago
It could have been intended to be reviewed internally but then somehow was made public by mistake in the insider builds. Where I work we write a lot of experimental features, behind feature flags which never end up being made available to customers. Could of course be that they are just making it up. If this was an actual mistake it sounds like their QA is messed up.
- bluefirebrand 5y ago
  I have been vocal against use of feature flags at my workplace, partly because of the risk of accidentally putting a feature live in a production or other client-facing environment. Just this morning I got to ask "Why is this feature flag enabled in prod" to the stunned faces of people who had insisted that would never happen. Maybe the same thing played out at Microsoft here.
daveslash 5y ago
Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?
- shaggie76 5y ago
  *It was to be announced at the party congress on Monday.*

belval 5y ago

My favorite conspiracy theory is that they do plan to add ads in the file explorer but only in 2-3 years. They leak it now so they get some flak but they just say "oh no we won't actually do it". Then when they actually roll it out people don't get as angry as the first time and they just leave it.

lloydatkinson 5y ago
Like when they said multiple times "Windows 10 is the last version of Windows as it will be a rolling release" and then pretended after they never said that in order to satisfy some product manager's desire to release a new version so they could add it to their resume.
- shamiln 5y ago
  Did they actually say that?
  - CrazedGeek 5y ago
    Yes, but no. One of their developer evangelists said it on stage at a conference, but the company wouldn’t confirm it: https://www.pcworld.com/article/394724/why-is-there-a-windows-11-if-windows-10-is-the-last-windows.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/394724/why-is-there-a-window...
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  I suspect that changed once macOS went to version 11.
  - psyc 5y ago
    "Why don't we just make 10 better and make 10 be the last number and make that a little better?" "Theirs goes to 11."
omgmajk 5y ago
I think this is pretty true, it's not unheard of before anyways.

KONAir 5y ago

Meh, I can live with it if OS becomes free.

fsflover 5y ago
Linux is already free, so what's the problem?
- paulryanrogers 5y ago
  Incompatibility, battery life, impossible number of combinations to support, need to use terminal, etc
  - fsflover 5y ago
    > Incompatibility, battery life Buy a computer with preinstalled Linux. Everything is fine on my Librem 15. Suspend works 100% of the time. > impossible number of combinations to support Support Ubuntu/Debian. It will be enough. Or Flatpak. > need to use terminal This is an obsolete information from the 90s.
    - paulryanrogers 5y ago
      > > need to use terminal > This is an obsolete information from the 90s. Except it's not in too many cases. Bluetooth, WiFi, multi-screen setups often devolve into terminal debugging sessions.
      - fsflover 5y ago
        Never happened to me. External monitor, WiFi work fine. Bluetooth untested.
SanchoPanda 5y ago
This got me thinking that MS might actually be telling the truth here. Maybe they only plan to enable it for pirated copies.

nix23 5y ago

Oh it was just for the developers at microsoft..that makes sense ;)