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Are you making thinly veiled references to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about replacing white people in Europe? I wouldn't assume so quickly, except that in

Are you making thinly veiled references to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about replacing white people in Europe? I wouldn't assume so quickly, except that in your recent comment history you've repeatedly made anti-Semitic statements. I'm not gonna flag or downvote your comment, but at least have the personal honor to be direct about what you're insinuating. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30681863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30681863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30686118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30686118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30475258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30475258

gigatexal 5y ago
Should there not be some platforms or speech that is ridiculed to death? I think they should be: anti-semitism (really any racism — it has no place on HN) or even the xenophobic fears of white Europeans being displaced… smh
- Jimbonius 5y ago
- copperwater69 5y ago
  I think its wrong to call it xenophobia when your culture and race is at risk of being diluted and minimised into a minority in your own country. I would even go so far as to call it xenophilia if you welcome that for your own people.
  - ogogmad 5y ago
    In principle, I'm willing to accept the right of countries to protect their "cultures" by limiting immigration. Within reason though: Once a person gets citizenship of a country, that right is irrevocable, and that person is as much a member of the country as any of its natives. But it's hard for me to do that when these culture protectors are outright racists and scumbags. Which they so often are.
  - gigatexal 5y ago
    In the example I gave in the original response: "white Europeans being displaced" I think I was needlessly vague. What I should have mentioned was that this displaced demographic is usually enfranchised, wealthier, educated, etc. If jobs are in question it just means that the labor market is flattening and the incumbents need to step up and skill up etc. Nobody is considering or advocating forced removal of people from their stations that's what makes this an irrational fear.
- blindmute 5y ago
  Why is the Tibet situation sad, and the Belgium situation xenophobic?
  - eloisius 5y ago
    Maybe because Belgian women aren't receiving forced sterilizations. I don't know. Maybe that makes it different.
impossiblefork 5y ago
Even so, this particular statement is factual: Belgians are about 50% of the newborn in Belgium. In Sweden numbers are less certain, but it's less than 60%, somewhere between 50% and 60%, so Swedes are likely to end up being a minority in Sweden, possibly a quite small minority, and the same with Belgians in Belgium.
- eatplayrove 5y ago
  Are these 50% of newborns Belgians/Swedes by some divine right? Why aren't the rest Belgians/Swedes?
  - Jimbonius 5y ago
  - ciphol 5y ago
    Their skin is too dark. (/s or whatever the appropriate way is of disassociating myself from this idea)
- misja111 5y ago
  The idea that there would be something like a 'pure Belgian', or Dutch or French or whatever, is an illusion. How many of those 50% new Belgians had all Belgian ancestors? And not some French, Dutch, German, Italian .. person somewhere up in their family tree?
  - Loic 5y ago
    A pure French exist! A pure French has "core values". He is proud to be French, a bit arrogant, a bit thinking like his country is big ("la Grande Nation"), the source of all the enlightenment philosophers, that English has more than 30% of its words directly taken from French and that without French cuisine and mode, and his magnificent country for the people to visit, the world would not be a place to live, can discuss without start and end on any subject and do not listen anyway to your answers. (I think there are many more core values, but I forgot them) It means that you can be pure French with Algerian, Moroccan, Chinese, whatever you want and have, roots. You just need to believe the core values and you are definitely French. Sometimes my wife tells me that I am a stupid French. ;-)
Jimbonius 5y ago
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gigatexal 5y ago

Should there not be some platforms or speech that is ridiculed to death? I think they should be: anti-semitism (really any racism — it has no place on HN) or even the xenophobic fears of white Europeans being displaced… smh

Jimbonius 5y ago
copperwater69 5y ago
I think its wrong to call it xenophobia when your culture and race is at risk of being diluted and minimised into a minority in your own country. I would even go so far as to call it xenophilia if you welcome that for your own people.
- ogogmad 5y ago
  In principle, I'm willing to accept the right of countries to protect their "cultures" by limiting immigration. Within reason though: Once a person gets citizenship of a country, that right is irrevocable, and that person is as much a member of the country as any of its natives. But it's hard for me to do that when these culture protectors are outright racists and scumbags. Which they so often are.
- gigatexal 5y ago
  In the example I gave in the original response: "white Europeans being displaced" I think I was needlessly vague. What I should have mentioned was that this displaced demographic is usually enfranchised, wealthier, educated, etc. If jobs are in question it just means that the labor market is flattening and the incumbents need to step up and skill up etc. Nobody is considering or advocating forced removal of people from their stations that's what makes this an irrational fear.
blindmute 5y ago
Why is the Tibet situation sad, and the Belgium situation xenophobic?
- eloisius 5y ago
  Maybe because Belgian women aren't receiving forced sterilizations. I don't know. Maybe that makes it different.

impossiblefork 5y ago

Even so, this particular statement is factual: Belgians are about 50% of the newborn in Belgium. In Sweden numbers are less certain, but it's less than 60%, somewhere between 50% and 60%, so Swedes are likely to end up being a minority in Sweden, possibly a quite small minority, and the same with Belgians in Belgium.

eatplayrove 5y ago
Are these 50% of newborns Belgians/Swedes by some divine right? Why aren't the rest Belgians/Swedes?
- Jimbonius 5y ago
- ciphol 5y ago
  Their skin is too dark. (/s or whatever the appropriate way is of disassociating myself from this idea)
misja111 5y ago
The idea that there would be something like a 'pure Belgian', or Dutch or French or whatever, is an illusion. How many of those 50% new Belgians had all Belgian ancestors? And not some French, Dutch, German, Italian .. person somewhere up in their family tree?
- Loic 5y ago
  A pure French exist! A pure French has "core values". He is proud to be French, a bit arrogant, a bit thinking like his country is big ("la Grande Nation"), the source of all the enlightenment philosophers, that English has more than 30% of its words directly taken from French and that without French cuisine and mode, and his magnificent country for the people to visit, the world would not be a place to live, can discuss without start and end on any subject and do not listen anyway to your answers. (I think there are many more core values, but I forgot them) It means that you can be pure French with Algerian, Moroccan, Chinese, whatever you want and have, roots. You just need to believe the core values and you are definitely French. Sometimes my wife tells me that I am a stupid French. ;-)

Jimbonius 5y ago

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