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At this point your main clocks, your phone and your computer, change themselves for you. Daylight savings time is no big deal really, it's just something to gri

At this point your main clocks, your phone and your computer, change themselves for you. Daylight savings time is no big deal really, it's just something to gripe about. That said, I'm heavily in favor of ending it. It's stupid. But I disagree that permanent DST is less stupid than time changes. I think the idea of permanently having the clock say an hour later than it is is just as senseless or more so than the yearly switch. Just end this madness and be done with it.

Gigachad 5y ago
My watch and bike computer still don't change time automatically which is enough to be annoying.
kayodelycaon 5y ago
As I posted elsewhere, I'm bipolar and the time changes literally ruin 4 weeks out of the year for me. I wish they had choose EST but fuck it, I'll take EDT. I don't care. I just want this to stop.
- AussieWog93 5y ago
  Serious question, but how/why is your life ruined, and why so long? I can't imagine a single hour ruining sleep patterns that badly?
  - kayodelycaon 5y ago
    I don't mind the question. :) Discussed that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30692209 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30692209
    - AussieWog93 5y ago
      Christ. That sounds horrible. So glad it'll soon be a thing of the past.
      - seanp2k2 5y ago
        I’m sure the House will find some idiotic way to politicize this issue with mid-terms coming up.
  - cbsmith 5y ago
    In general, how disruptive a comparatively small change is has everything to do with how stable your footing is. Changes like daylight savings can be very disruptive for anyone who struggles to maintain a routine just to make life livable.
- chockablock 5y ago
  Interesting. Someone I know well with bipolar has very predictable manic episodes around the same date each springtime, but they aren't tied directly to the time change I.e. they happen +/- a week or so each year.
  - kayodelycaon 5y ago
    Many bipolar people are affected by seasonal changes. Some are also affected by changes in weather, like a large storm coming through.
ariwilson 5y ago
DST has a high cost to anyone who is responsible for creatures that do not understand it - children and pets.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Yeah, but that doesn't explain why permanent DST instead of just ending DST. "People don't like switching clocks, and I've got the solution! Let's make the mass delusion permanent!" Can we just end the madness altogether?
  - dzikimarian 5y ago
    All of them are delusion. It's simply something we, as society, agreed on, many years ago. It comes to personal preference and for many people more daylight in the afternoon is more convenient.
    - betwixthewires 5y ago
      No they're not all delusion, one is an abstraction, the others are delusion. Noon is when the sun is 50% done with its cycle from rise to set. We base our clocks on that. Not delusion, abstraction. It is simply a measure of objective reality. Deciding that noon is at 1:00pm on the longest days of the year so that the sun can set at night instead of evening is delusion. Deciding to make that permanent all year around isn't any better.
      - monocasa 5y ago
        Noon hasn't meant high noon in nearly 150 years. With the establishment of timezones in 1883, we shifted from "noon is the highest point in the sky" to "noon is when we decide makes the most sense logistically for your general region". It came with an outcry of the same argument you're making.
        betwixthewires 5y ago
irrational 5y ago
Cars, appliances, wall clocks, alarm clocks, sprinkler system, even my garage door opener has a manual clock that has to be reset manaully.
- mark-r 5y ago
  My car finally did it right - when you go into settings, there's a single on/off toggle for daylight saving. No more fiddling to reset the time by exactly an hour, it's as automatic as it can be without knowing which day to do it on its own.
taway01239 5y ago
Unfortunately, young kids circadian rhythms are pretty backward in that they don't change themselves automatically. They just either get up too early or one hour before too early.
- asiachick 5y ago
  not my experience with my kids or myself as a kid (or myself as an adult). Not saying your experience is wrong. Just suggesting others might not have the same experience
xtracto 5y ago
This has been the impact for me: - There's a 3 week span where the US changes to DST but my country don't, meeting times get hectic. - My dog goes out at 6:30 am in the morning, 6:30pm afternoon and eats at 9:00pm. After DST changes, the poor guy gets all confused, and wants to go out at 5:30 in the morning. - I do find it harder to fall asleep after the daylight time change. It disrupts my sleeping/resting for at least 2 weeks. I am happy that the USA got rid of it, HOPEFULLY the Mexican government will as well, and fingers crossed, they also decide to stay with DST, otherwise the timezone differences will be crazy.

Gigachad 5y ago

My watch and bike computer still don't change time automatically which is enough to be annoying.

kayodelycaon 5y ago

As I posted elsewhere, I'm bipolar and the time changes literally ruin 4 weeks out of the year for me. I wish they had choose EST but fuck it, I'll take EDT. I don't care. I just want this to stop.

AussieWog93 5y ago
Serious question, but how/why is your life ruined, and why so long? I can't imagine a single hour ruining sleep patterns that badly?
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  I don't mind the question. :) Discussed that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30692209 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30692209
  - AussieWog93 5y ago
    Christ. That sounds horrible. So glad it'll soon be a thing of the past.
    - seanp2k2 5y ago
      I’m sure the House will find some idiotic way to politicize this issue with mid-terms coming up.
- cbsmith 5y ago
  In general, how disruptive a comparatively small change is has everything to do with how stable your footing is. Changes like daylight savings can be very disruptive for anyone who struggles to maintain a routine just to make life livable.
chockablock 5y ago
Interesting. Someone I know well with bipolar has very predictable manic episodes around the same date each springtime, but they aren't tied directly to the time change I.e. they happen +/- a week or so each year.
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  Many bipolar people are affected by seasonal changes. Some are also affected by changes in weather, like a large storm coming through.

ariwilson 5y ago

DST has a high cost to anyone who is responsible for creatures that do not understand it - children and pets.

betwixthewires 5y ago
Yeah, but that doesn't explain why permanent DST instead of just ending DST. "People don't like switching clocks, and I've got the solution! Let's make the mass delusion permanent!" Can we just end the madness altogether?
- dzikimarian 5y ago
  All of them are delusion. It's simply something we, as society, agreed on, many years ago. It comes to personal preference and for many people more daylight in the afternoon is more convenient.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    No they're not all delusion, one is an abstraction, the others are delusion. Noon is when the sun is 50% done with its cycle from rise to set. We base our clocks on that. Not delusion, abstraction. It is simply a measure of objective reality. Deciding that noon is at 1:00pm on the longest days of the year so that the sun can set at night instead of evening is delusion. Deciding to make that permanent all year around isn't any better.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      Noon hasn't meant high noon in nearly 150 years. With the establishment of timezones in 1883, we shifted from "noon is the highest point in the sky" to "noon is when we decide makes the most sense logistically for your general region". It came with an outcry of the same argument you're making.
      - betwixthewires 5y ago

irrational 5y ago

Cars, appliances, wall clocks, alarm clocks, sprinkler system, even my garage door opener has a manual clock that has to be reset manaully.

mark-r 5y ago
My car finally did it right - when you go into settings, there's a single on/off toggle for daylight saving. No more fiddling to reset the time by exactly an hour, it's as automatic as it can be without knowing which day to do it on its own.

taway01239 5y ago

Unfortunately, young kids circadian rhythms are pretty backward in that they don't change themselves automatically. They just either get up too early or one hour before too early.

asiachick 5y ago
not my experience with my kids or myself as a kid (or myself as an adult). Not saying your experience is wrong. Just suggesting others might not have the same experience

xtracto 5y ago

This has been the impact for me: - There's a 3 week span where the US changes to DST but my country don't, meeting times get hectic. - My dog goes out at 6:30 am in the morning, 6:30pm afternoon and eats at 9:00pm. After DST changes, the poor guy gets all confused, and wants to go out at 5:30 in the morning. - I do find it harder to fall asleep after the daylight time change. It disrupts my sleeping/resting for at least 2 weeks. I am happy that the USA got rid of it, HOPEFULLY the Mexican government will as well, and fingers crossed, they also decide to stay with DST, otherwise the timezone differences will be crazy.