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You wake up 2 hours earlier than the average American (which apparently is about 7:09am). Things aren't and shouldn't be optimized for your abnormal sleep patte

You wake up 2 hours earlier than the average American (which apparently is about 7:09am). Things aren't and shouldn't be optimized for your abnormal sleep pattern. > If a kid has to suffer through getting up on 5 hours sleep they probably won't make that mistake again. ... I don't think you've met kids before. The vast majority absolutely won't learn. > Living a larger part of the day in darkness isn't good for most people's happiness, energy use aside. Standard time moves sunlight to the morning, when people are sleeping. Permanent DST should give people the same or more sunlight during their waking hours. You'd have the same amount, waking up at 5am and assuming you don't sleep until at least 8:30pm.

collegeburner 5y ago
I learned when I was a kid. It took me a few days, and I made the mistake a few more times, but I eventually learned. Americans wake up before 7: https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the-world-sleep https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the... We should try to move sunrise closer to when people wake up. This does the opposite for most people, not just me. Also, we should teach more people to get up early and go lift/exercise. We have too many fatties in this country. Making it a national habit would be a great thing.
- seanmcdirmid 5y ago
  > I learned when I was a kid. From my experience, having experienced being a kid does not prepare you very much for the task of raising one.
- yupper32 5y ago
  I don't see the raw numbers, but the chart seems to indicate Americans waking up slightly before 7, maybe 6:50am? Not too far off from the source I found of 7:09am, and is still approximately 2 hours after you wake up. And congrats at being disciplined. The vast vast vast majority of Americans aren't. And changing the habits of hundreds of millions of people is a pipe dream and really irrelevant to this conversation.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  > Also, we should teach more people to get up early and go lift/exercise. With permanent DST people will have more opportunities to do that in the daylight after work, as the day will be longer.

collegeburner 5y ago

I learned when I was a kid. It took me a few days, and I made the mistake a few more times, but I eventually learned. Americans wake up before 7: https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the-world-sleep https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the... We should try to move sunrise closer to when people wake up. This does the opposite for most people, not just me. Also, we should teach more people to get up early and go lift/exercise. We have too many fatties in this country. Making it a national habit would be a great thing.

seanmcdirmid 5y ago
> I learned when I was a kid. From my experience, having experienced being a kid does not prepare you very much for the task of raising one.
yupper32 5y ago
I don't see the raw numbers, but the chart seems to indicate Americans waking up slightly before 7, maybe 6:50am? Not too far off from the source I found of 7:09am, and is still approximately 2 hours after you wake up. And congrats at being disciplined. The vast vast vast majority of Americans aren't. And changing the habits of hundreds of millions of people is a pipe dream and really irrelevant to this conversation.
Apocryphon 5y ago
> Also, we should teach more people to get up early and go lift/exercise. With permanent DST people will have more opportunities to do that in the daylight after work, as the day will be longer.