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So... what did they think was the future for Tibet?

skilled 5y ago
I certainly didn't ask that question from a political perspective. I'm not delusional to assume that Tibet and its people stand a chance against China. And this was also reflected in their answers. They're mostly concerned with ensuring that people have a safe passage out of there (having the ability to go to India and lead a life without oppression), while trying to negotiate peace deals for sacred locations and the deep Tibet. But I do think that this has been consistently falling on deaf ears. And, of course, they are hoping that the Dalai Lama will choose to reincarnate again to keep the "fight" going. Getting out of Tibet is not exactly a walk in the park. Though, it is a walk. A long and gloomy walk through treacherous mountains which in 70%+ cases leave people with frostbite and other injuries. I befriended a yoga teacher who was teaching an authentic Tibetan practice, and he sometimes had people over at his studio who had the day prior arrived to Dharamshala, from Tibet, through the mountain passages. It's unreal. It's not like they have the luxury of an empire conglomerate like other modern countries, but India has been good to them.
- technobabbler 5y ago
  Sounds like a strong people trying to make the best of a bad situation. Rugged to the core, yet softened by wisdom.
- R0b0t1 5y ago
  Is it expected Han Chinese will move in to displace the Tibetans? Why are they focusing on safe passage?
  - anadem 5y ago
    "Tibet has an estimated population of about 6 million Tibetans and 7.5 million Chinese settlers." [0] This is using the Chinese definition of Tibet, which is less than half of the historical Tibet. Han Chinese are encouraged to move into Tibet (and Xinjiang) to dilute the indigenous population. [0] https://unpo.org/members/7879 https://unpo.org/members/7879
    - copperwater69 5y ago
      - cercatrova 5y ago
        It was the tactic of the British into Northern Ireland, interestingly enough. I suppose it's also the story of colonists coming into the Americas as well as parts of Africa, mainly South Africa.
      - eloisius 5y ago
        Are you making thinly veiled references to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about replacing white people in Europe? I wouldn't assume so quickly, except that in your recent comment history you've repeatedly made anti-Semitic statements. I'm not gonna flag or downvote your comment, but at least have the personal honor to be direct about what you're insinuating. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30681863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30681863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30686118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30686118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30475258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30475258
        gigatexal 5y ago
        Should there not be some platforms or speech that is ridiculed to death? I think they should be: anti-semitism (really any racism — it has no place on HN) or even the xenophobic fears of white Europeans being displaced… smh
        Jimbonius 5y ago
        copperwater69 5y ago
        I think its wrong to call it xenophobia when your culture and race is at risk of being diluted and minimised into a minority in your own country. I would even go so far as to call it xenophilia if you welcome that for your own people.

I certainly didn't ask that question from a political perspective. I'm not delusional to assume that Tibet and its people stand a chance against China. And this was also reflected in their answers. They're mostly concerned with ensuring that people have a safe passage out of there (having the ability to go to India and lead a life without oppression), while trying to negotiate peace deals for sacred locations and the deep Tibet. But I do think that this has been consistently falling on deaf ears. And, of course, they are hoping that the Dalai Lama will choose to reincarnate again to keep the "fight" going. Getting out of Tibet is not exactly a walk in the park. Though, it is a walk. A long and gloomy walk through treacherous mountains which in 70%+ cases leave people with frostbite and other injuries. I befriended a yoga teacher who was teaching an authentic Tibetan practice, and he sometimes had people over at his studio who had the day prior arrived to Dharamshala, from Tibet, through the mountain passages. It's unreal. It's not like they have the luxury of an empire conglomerate like other modern countries, but India has been good to them.

technobabbler 5y ago
Sounds like a strong people trying to make the best of a bad situation. Rugged to the core, yet softened by wisdom.
R0b0t1 5y ago
Is it expected Han Chinese will move in to displace the Tibetans? Why are they focusing on safe passage?
- anadem 5y ago
  "Tibet has an estimated population of about 6 million Tibetans and 7.5 million Chinese settlers." [0] This is using the Chinese definition of Tibet, which is less than half of the historical Tibet. Han Chinese are encouraged to move into Tibet (and Xinjiang) to dilute the indigenous population. [0] https://unpo.org/members/7879 https://unpo.org/members/7879
  - copperwater69 5y ago
    - cercatrova 5y ago
      It was the tactic of the British into Northern Ireland, interestingly enough. I suppose it's also the story of colonists coming into the Americas as well as parts of Africa, mainly South Africa.
    - eloisius 5y ago
      Are you making thinly veiled references to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about replacing white people in Europe? I wouldn't assume so quickly, except that in your recent comment history you've repeatedly made anti-Semitic statements. I'm not gonna flag or downvote your comment, but at least have the personal honor to be direct about what you're insinuating. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30681863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30681863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30686118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30686118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30475258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30475258
      - gigatexal 5y ago
        Should there not be some platforms or speech that is ridiculed to death? I think they should be: anti-semitism (really any racism — it has no place on HN) or even the xenophobic fears of white Europeans being displaced… smh
        Jimbonius 5y ago
        copperwater69 5y ago
        I think its wrong to call it xenophobia when your culture and race is at risk of being diluted and minimised into a minority in your own country. I would even go so far as to call it xenophilia if you welcome that for your own people.