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I agree that's there's no chance of a popular coup anytime soon. Russian intelligence services were able to influence the results of the US election just by buy

I agree that's there's no chance of a popular coup anytime soon. Russian intelligence services were able to influence the results of the US election just by buying Facebook ads, leaking hacked DNC emails to WikiLeaks and funding a few extremist voices. Now imagine what they could do by controlling every single media outlet in a country for the two decades Putin has been in power.

nradov 5y ago
How many Electoral College votes did the Russian intelligence services change in the US election?
- dmead 5y ago
  In Philadelphia, there was a trump rally organized on the east side of city hall before the 2016 election. Turned out it was organized entirely in Facebook ads and groups paid for by proxies of the fsb. So, to answer your question 20. In my community it was potentially 20 electoral votes.
  - djrogers 5y ago
    So you’re saying enough people to swing 20 electors, who weren’t already planning to vote for Trump, went to a Trump rally organized by Russian proxies, and were convinced to vote for him because of this rally? That sounds… Unlikely.
  - WillPostForFood 5y ago
    There’s no evidence that the rallies scheduled in October 2016 for Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Allentown, Wilkes-Barre, and Erie ever took place. There were no permit applications filed for the day of the Philly rally, either. https://www.inquirer.com/politics/mueller-report-miners-for-trump-philadelphia-russia-photo-20190423.html https://www.inquirer.com/politics/mueller-report-miners-for-... Russia through 100k in facebook ads, and got the typical results, nothing much. Even if they were the best FB ad optimizers in the world how much impact is 100k in an election where the spending was estimated at $2.65 billion dollars? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016s-price-tag-6-8-billion/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016s-price-tag-6-8-bi...
    - dmead 5y ago
      okay, so i'll just relay that to the south philly rubes that told me they went. /shrug.

nradov 5y ago

How many Electoral College votes did the Russian intelligence services change in the US election?

dmead 5y ago
In Philadelphia, there was a trump rally organized on the east side of city hall before the 2016 election. Turned out it was organized entirely in Facebook ads and groups paid for by proxies of the fsb. So, to answer your question 20. In my community it was potentially 20 electoral votes.
- djrogers 5y ago
  So you’re saying enough people to swing 20 electors, who weren’t already planning to vote for Trump, went to a Trump rally organized by Russian proxies, and were convinced to vote for him because of this rally? That sounds… Unlikely.
- WillPostForFood 5y ago
  There’s no evidence that the rallies scheduled in October 2016 for Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Allentown, Wilkes-Barre, and Erie ever took place. There were no permit applications filed for the day of the Philly rally, either. https://www.inquirer.com/politics/mueller-report-miners-for-trump-philadelphia-russia-photo-20190423.html https://www.inquirer.com/politics/mueller-report-miners-for-... Russia through 100k in facebook ads, and got the typical results, nothing much. Even if they were the best FB ad optimizers in the world how much impact is 100k in an election where the spending was estimated at $2.65 billion dollars? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016s-price-tag-6-8-billion/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016s-price-tag-6-8-bi...
  - dmead 5y ago
    okay, so i'll just relay that to the south philly rubes that told me they went. /shrug.