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Off Topic I abhor this concept of "Passport Confiscation". In middle east countries, this practice is very much prevalent. They hire poor people from Asia to c
by cute_boi 5y ago
Off Topic
I abhor this concept of "Passport Confiscation". In middle east countries, this practice is very much prevalent. They hire poor people from Asia to construct roads, Fifa stadium, etc. Also, the first thing these bloodsuckers do is confiscate their passport. How is this different than slavery in China? Shouldn't we sanction such a toxic place?
- eurasiantiger 5y agoThis happens all over the world, even in the Western countries.
- nayaketo 5y agoDoes it happen with same degree and prevalence rates as the west?
- solarmist 5y agoAnd it’s horrific anywhere it occurs. That’s not a valid criticism.
- lukas099 5y agoWhy is it always assumed that comments are arguing against their parent comments?
- SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW 5y ago
- hnbad 5y agoSome (most?) Western countries explicitly have laws against this. Fun aside: I used to work at a student library and management was very clear about us not being allowed to retain government-issued personal ID cards as collateral (instead of the university-issued student ID cards) because doing so would be breaking the law. Of course human traffickers don't care about the legality of the practice, but there's a difference between something being widespread among criminals and something being culturally (or legally) acceptable without having to buy off police or customs.
- godelmachine 5y agoWestern countries? Pray give us some examples. Curious to know if this happens in Canada and USA.
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoIt does, but you won't know about it because they're frequently labeled as "unregistered illegal aliens".
- jasonjayr 5y agoThis sounds like something a law could deal with quite swiftly? "Jail time + huge fines for anyone other than law enforcement with a legal order or warrant denying access any document a person requires for travel."
- rdtwo 5y agoWhy not just scan all passports on arrival. Then if a passport is lost or stolen a fingerprint and biometric Id can just be used in place. The whole concept of a physical passport is so pre internet
- api 5y agoOh yes, but unfortunately the physical passport is enshrined in a ton of treaties that are very hard and slow to change. There are also some nasty privacy and autonomy implications to digitizing the passport system. This is not primarily a technical problem, but that doesn't mean it's not a very hard problem. Tech people tend to assume that every non-technical problem is easy. Often people, legal, ethical, and institutional problems are quite a bit harder than just making shit work at the tech level, and it is not just because people are lazy or inept. It's because there are loads of competing concerns and stakeholders.
- rdtwo 5y agoNon technical problems are the worst. The type of problem would probably take tens or hundreds of billions of dollars in manpower to fix. The amount of meetings and negotiations is probably staggering
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- denton-scratch 5y agoMany hotels in Europe (and no doubt in other places) take possession of your passport. A UK passport is the property of the UK government; as far as I'm aware, it's forbidden for a UK passport holder to voluntarily surrender it to a third party.
- thematrixturtle 5y agoCitation needed. I have traveled a lot and I've never, anywhere in the world, had a hotel attempt to hold onto my passport longer than it takes them to photocopy it for ID purposes.
- denton-scratch 5y agoI haven't travelled internationally for a long time, so I withdraw my remark in deference to your greater experience.
- Teever 5y agoI have, and I have had a motorbike rental place hold my passport as a deposit on the bike.
- s1artibartfast 5y agoYou are not crazy, I have experienced the same in many countries all over the world. Now I just say no