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>"march 11" which is how we say dates in English anyway I think every time this topic comes up I come across someone with this misconception - usually from a c
by onpensionsterm 5y ago
>"march 11" which is how we say dates in English anyway
I think every time this topic comes up I come across someone with this misconception - usually from a country that celebrates the 4th of July.
- Dylan16807 5y agoSo I agree with your point that the way dates are said varies. But your example isn't very good. That's just the name of the holiday, and should not be used to infer anything else.
- NovemberWhiskey 5y agoI think you're missing the point. In the UK, for example, 2/2 is "the second of February", not "February second".
- Dylan16807 5y agoI understand the point entirely. I said I agree with it. But at the same time, "Fourth of July" should not be used to infer anything about how Americans say dates. It doesn't help prove that both orders are used for dates. In the real world, some people say day-month and some say month-day, and the holiday is called "Fourth of July". In a counterfactual world where everyone switched to month-day, the holiday would still be called "Fourth of July". So you can't use "Fourth of July" to demonstrate what people actually use for dates.
- onpensionsterm 5y agoI'm not saying Americans say dates like that, I'm saying it's a reason they might consider that other people, or Americans once-upon-a-time, say dates like that.
- Dylan16807 5y ago> I'm saying it's a reason they might consider that other people, or Americans once-upon-a-time, say dates like that. Once upon a time yes. So that makes it sort of a reason to think those are still possible, but equally validly it acts as a reason to say nobody does that anymore. So overall it's entirely reasonable to ignore such ambivalent evidence/"evidence".
- davidgay 5y agoNth of month (with month sometimes elided) is most definitely standard English.
- FabHK 5y agoIt was a facetious way to refer to the USA, I believe. No other country, AFAIK, uses MM-DD-YYYY (except (former) US possessions).
- drusepth 5y ago"The 4th of July" is the name of a holiday that happens on July 4th, a day after July 3rd and a day before July 5th.
- onpensionsterm 5y agoOr on the 4th of July, to me.