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French native speaker here. UX consistency, shared Internet culture, habits from the early 90's and error messages I can actually find on the Web are the reason

French native speaker here. UX consistency, shared Internet culture, habits from the early 90's and error messages I can actually find on the Web are the reasons why I always set my computing to the english language. I'm trying to have English language but metric units, 24 hour clock and ISO dates... Seldom can I achieve that. On the French-language mandatory corporate Windows laptop, Excel formulas are translated in French - so when searching for recipes on the web I have to translate them ! I enjoy sites such as Thomann.de which have separate settings for language, country and units of measurement.

toolslive 5y ago
Tip:Pretend to be Irish. You get English, but you also get SI and euro.
- geoduck14 5y ago
  > Tip:Pretend to be Irish Best tip I've seen all day!
SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
I just have a custom locale for any UNIX-like systems I use. American English, UTF-8, 24-hour time, RFC-3339 dates, SI units, '.' decimal point, '_' thousands separator. I call it en_ENG, for the fictional land of Engineeristan.
- tut-urut-utut 5y ago
  Mind to share your LC_ settings?
  - SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
    An explanation of all the valid fields can be found at [1]. Copy an existing locale, modify it to suit your needs. Don't forget to escape all characters as Unicode if you want it to support unicode. Compile & install as normal with localedef, add to `/var/lib/locales/supported.d`, run locale-gen, set the various `LC_` variables you want to use in `~/.profile` or `/etc/envionment` or whatever. This[2] askubuntu answer goes into more detail. [1] https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_US/ https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_US/ [2] https://askubuntu.com/a/162714 https://askubuntu.com/a/162714
- account42 5y ago
  I just use en_DK which (while not perfectly named) is exactly there to solve this.
  - SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
    That doesn't have `_` as the thousands separator. It uses ISO 8601 for date/times instead of RFC 3339 (so "2022-03-14T15:06:03 EDT" instead of "2022-03-14 15:06:03-04:00"), etc. I just happen to want slightly different choices than it allows.
benhurmarcel 5y ago
> I'm trying to have English language but metric units, 24 hour clock and ISO dates... Seldom can I achieve that. I do the same. There is usually a locale available with that, look for English (Ireland), English (Europe), English (Denmark), or English (Germany).

toolslive 5y ago

Tip:Pretend to be Irish. You get English, but you also get SI and euro.

geoduck14 5y ago
> Tip:Pretend to be Irish Best tip I've seen all day!

SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago

I just have a custom locale for any UNIX-like systems I use. American English, UTF-8, 24-hour time, RFC-3339 dates, SI units, '.' decimal point, '_' thousands separator. I call it en_ENG, for the fictional land of Engineeristan.

tut-urut-utut 5y ago
Mind to share your LC_ settings?
- SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
  An explanation of all the valid fields can be found at [1]. Copy an existing locale, modify it to suit your needs. Don't forget to escape all characters as Unicode if you want it to support unicode. Compile & install as normal with localedef, add to `/var/lib/locales/supported.d`, run locale-gen, set the various `LC_` variables you want to use in `~/.profile` or `/etc/envionment` or whatever. This[2] askubuntu answer goes into more detail. [1] https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_US/ https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_US/ [2] https://askubuntu.com/a/162714 https://askubuntu.com/a/162714
account42 5y ago
I just use en_DK which (while not perfectly named) is exactly there to solve this.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
  That doesn't have `_` as the thousands separator. It uses ISO 8601 for date/times instead of RFC 3339 (so "2022-03-14T15:06:03 EDT" instead of "2022-03-14 15:06:03-04:00"), etc. I just happen to want slightly different choices than it allows.

benhurmarcel 5y ago

> I'm trying to have English language but metric units, 24 hour clock and ISO dates... Seldom can I achieve that. I do the same. There is usually a locale available with that, look for English (Ireland), English (Europe), English (Denmark), or English (Germany).