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Anything that says sign up for beta to get me to provide an email and contact info, I and a lot of other people are not going to use.

akvadrako 5y ago
It's a beta now but it'll become a paid search. That you aren't willing to pay for search means it isn't very important to you.
- krageon 5y ago
  > That you aren't willing to pay for search means it isn't very important to you. Or that they don't have money to throw away on things that aren't things necessary to live. Your statement is only true if the person you respond to is quite wealthy, which is a leap.
  - libraryatnight 5y ago
    Wait, why is being 'quite wealthy' necessary? Their FAQ says 10$ on the low end, 20-30$ for an unlimited offering. People of varying economic positions spend that monthly on a myriad of non-essential services. I feel like you're also playing a semantic game with 'importance' since in another comment you immediately jump to a starving person trying to choose between a premium search engine and food. We're more or less in a typical HN thread about product barrier to entry here and it feels like you're on a class crusade to get equal search results for all. Not the same conversation.
  - akvadrako 5y ago
    The target audience is professionals, where search helps them make money, which is necessary to live.
    - krageon 5y ago
      If the choice is between eating or good search, which do you think someone will pick? Is that because they don't think it's important?
      - Gollapalli 5y ago
        I don’t know where you live or what your circumstances are, but $10-15/month is less than Netflix or Spotify. It’s less than YouTube Premium. All those things are essentially you paying for content in a way that results in you being less advertised to. It’s not a lot of money.
Gareth321 5y ago
Totally fair, but why not just provide a throwaway email if you're worried about spam or privacy? Is it the principle? I've never had a principle problem with having a login to a service. I would do so with DDG, for example, if I could customise my results better.
- marssaxman 5y ago
  I am thoroughly sick of registering and logging in for services and will avoid doing so whenever possible.

akvadrako 5y ago

It's a beta now but it'll become a paid search. That you aren't willing to pay for search means it isn't very important to you.

krageon 5y ago
> That you aren't willing to pay for search means it isn't very important to you. Or that they don't have money to throw away on things that aren't things necessary to live. Your statement is only true if the person you respond to is quite wealthy, which is a leap.
- libraryatnight 5y ago
  Wait, why is being 'quite wealthy' necessary? Their FAQ says 10$ on the low end, 20-30$ for an unlimited offering. People of varying economic positions spend that monthly on a myriad of non-essential services. I feel like you're also playing a semantic game with 'importance' since in another comment you immediately jump to a starving person trying to choose between a premium search engine and food. We're more or less in a typical HN thread about product barrier to entry here and it feels like you're on a class crusade to get equal search results for all. Not the same conversation.
- akvadrako 5y ago
  The target audience is professionals, where search helps them make money, which is necessary to live.
  - krageon 5y ago
    If the choice is between eating or good search, which do you think someone will pick? Is that because they don't think it's important?
    - Gollapalli 5y ago
      I don’t know where you live or what your circumstances are, but $10-15/month is less than Netflix or Spotify. It’s less than YouTube Premium. All those things are essentially you paying for content in a way that results in you being less advertised to. It’s not a lot of money.

Gareth321 5y ago

Totally fair, but why not just provide a throwaway email if you're worried about spam or privacy? Is it the principle? I've never had a principle problem with having a login to a service. I would do so with DDG, for example, if I could customise my results better.

marssaxman 5y ago
I am thoroughly sick of registering and logging in for services and will avoid doing so whenever possible.